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I've already run out of things to say.

Hello everyone, the project is not actually extinct!

I just wanted to give an update, here is the list of animals I have fully statted out now:

Anything marked with an F is a familiar choice.

I also had stat blocks for Therizinosaurus, Troodon, Plesiosaurus, Trilobite and Cameroceras but removed them because Bestiary 5 beat me to it. I compared them and most of their ideas are very similar to mine (I even had an ability called vicious claws on therizinosaurus; and rather than the sweep attack my version had great cleave) right down to the CR they aimed for. So I removed my stat blocks. I kept Kaprosuchus because Paizo's version is very far removed from reality, being huge size, rather than medium sized, as mine is.

I was thinking about also adding a version of spinosaurus that is more up to current scientific consensus.

Scientists liken Troodon's intelligence to that of a primitive possum. But yeah my troodon stats make them out to be pretty smart. They actually have two teamwork feats as bonus feats, which they can only use with other troodons. Which is why I also gave them a rule that a single troodon is a lower CR per animal than multiple.

And I was actually thinking about putting dinosauroids in there as a playable race. But i got no response to whether anyone would like to see playable races so I have not acted on it.

As for being ancestors of lizardfolk, no Lizardfolk are too reptilian, while troodons are pretty far down the road to modern birds.

I will have a look at them. For the mentioned real ones I have already written my own stats.

I blame Kosmoceratops for this whole mess.

That's a long list, Wannabe. A couple of them will be in there. I can obviously not make this many on my own, and there are also some dinos which would probably be very similar in behaviour and physique, those will be represented in a lit stat suggests stats of very similar existing dinosaurs.

I added a bunch of tiny and small dinosaurs to the list so there is some selection of prehistoric familiars.

I'm also considering a more up to date version of Spinosaurus

These are the remaining items on my list on which I'm not yet fully decided whether to put them in or leave them out. Any votes?

Archosaurs, Protorosaurs, Synapsids
Tanystropheus M
Leogorgon L

Dinosaurs
Psittacosaurus M
Majungasaurus L
Kentrosaurus L
Plateosaurus H
Saltasaurus G
Gastonia L
Euoplocephalus L
Ceratosaurus L
Stegoceras M
Qianzhousaurus L
Dacentrurus H
Qijianglong G
Shunosaurus H
Stegoceratops (Triceratops with Stegosaurus Plates and Spikes) H
Ankylotaurus (Armored Ceratopsian with tail club) H

Pterosaurs
Dsungaripterus S
Tapejara S

Plesiosaurs, Ichthyosaurs
Kronosaurus H
Dolichorhynchops M
Liopleurodon H
Ophthalmosaurus H

Non-Saurians
Elephant bird H
Uintatherium H
Plesiadapis T
Andrewsarchus L
Hyneria L

And one more because the first one is a little too little.

Allow me to give a little spoiler then :)

If you're going by that standard, Quetzalcoatlus also had a statblock in an AP.

I don't know, if the Community Use License allows it, i might copy-paste the appropriate beasties from those. Including the Dunkleosteus that has been posted on the thread earlier.

Any love for Dryptosaurus (fka Laelaps, I believe)?

That one's totally in! Thanks for pointing it out.

No I'm just talking about fictional dinosaurs designed after the inaccurate but kind of cool in a cheesy way ideas that people had of iguanodon, megalosaurus, ichthyosaurus etc in victorian times.

Has Pathfinder done versions of the clawfoot, fastieth, and glidewing yet?

Aren't those just Raptors, Orni-/Struthio-/Gallimimus and Pteranodons with different names?

I'm thinking inaccurate historical reconstructions of the animals as actual creatures.

Also they are concrete, not lead.

What would you guys think about giving stats to the Crystal Palace Dinosaurs?

I hadn't checked this for a while, because I thought the thread had died after my last post. But don't worry, I'm still on the case.

Just last week I was in the Brussels museum of natural history, looking at those amazing iguanodon fossils (for those not in the know: they have a display of eight huge, and nearly complete iguanodon skeletons all of which were found in the same coal mine in Bernissart), and getting some new ideas.

Good to see there are more suggestions.

Triumbrosaurus wrote:

Dilophovenator, Medium, CR 3

I can't find anything on this. Is it a newly announced dinosaur?

No it'll be the jurassic park style rendition of Dilophosaurus.

Aberration also works. The lines between the two can be blurry.

A swarm of them or giant dire trilobites might be more interesting.

I think they evolved into pill bugs.

The problem is, no matter the size they will just be a pack of hit points with maybe a bite and a slightly higher natural AC than most things of their size.

I still demand an oversized Hallucigenia monster, preferably with f~+#ed-up magical powers!

Large Magical Beast, roughly CR 10 sound good?

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How do people like the idea of prehistoric/dinosaur themed races?

I was thionking about giving stats to Dinosauroids, we've heard Sleestak mentioned before (which would probably be copyrighted but in essence seem somewhat similar to the dinosauroids), but I can also imagine doing various anthropomorphic dinosaur or megafauna races, and I don't know if Neanderthals already have 3.P rules somewhere.

Newest fully statted dinosaurs are

Shantungosaurus, Gargantuan, CR 9 (I used this instead of Edmontosaurus, because its bigger)
Therizinosaurus, Huge, CR 7
Oviraptor, Medium, CR 3
Troodon, Medium, CR 5 (this one is a little wonky on CR, it would be a lot less if it's only one of them)
Pachyrhinosaurus, Huge, CR 7
Ornithomimus, Large, CR 3
Dilophovenator, Medium, CR 3

I haven't had a lot of time to do these recently, when I do have the time and energy i can stat our several in a day. In fact the ones listed so far were made in 2 separate days next to working my day job.

I have basic stats for a few non dinosaurs ready too. I'm not sure what to do with the trilobites though, they seem extremely boring as there appears to be nothing special to them.

Triumbrosaurus wrote:

I also had an idea for a dinosaur themed fantasy monster: Fossil Skeletons

Is that different than applying the skeleton template to a dinosaur base creature?

It will be different. I'm not sure yet whether it will be a sub-template for skeletons or an independent template. It will definitely be slower but tougher because the bones are stone. It wikll also be usable with exoskeletal creatures.

Also, just curious, what reasoning did you use to make Dilophosoaurus higher CR than Utahraptor? Both were about 7 meters and about 500kg with similar mouths and claws. I would have pegged them as virtually identical in terms of game mechanics, including CR.

And both of their CR seems a little weak to me too - you've essentially said that Utahraptor vs. Tiger (modern, non-dire, ordinary tiger) is an even battle. While they might be matched in ferocity, my bet goes to those super nasty claws and huge mouths of the raptor - it just has vastly superior weapons. Even a 1 CR bump feels a bit weak.

(not trying to be critical; just trying to help you get satisfactory results - feel free to ignore, of course, if you think your reasoning is right where you want it to be)

I will probably re-evaluate the CRs, currently Utahraptor is one step up from Deinonychus, mainly the same creature but with higher strength and more hit dice, that may be too little, the stats are currently slightly lower than the "Megaraptor" suggested in the Bestiary (Large Advanced Deinonychus) in most parts sop I left the CR lower too.

EDIT: I just looked at Dilophosaurus and Utahraptor back to back and decided to swap their CRs, Utah will now be 5 and Dilo 4

Since there are no more suggestions, I have started statting up dinosaurs.

I completed statblocks for the following so far:
Amphicoelias Fragillimus, Colossal, CR 18
Dilophosaurus, Large, CR 5
Baryonyx, Huge, CR 8
Microraptor, Tiny, CR 1/4
Utahraptor, Large, CR 4
Carcharodontosaurus, Gargantuan, CR 12
Carnotaurus, Huge, CR 7
Protoceratops, Medium, CR 2

I also had an idea for a dinosaur themed fantasy monster: Fossil Skeletons