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@ Eta - ignore them.
@ Being - you crack me up

Chilz peoples,
The Dev's already stated that open world PvP is in the game and it is also mentioned in the the Kickstarter. You can't put money into this and then cry about it later hoping you can change the game development by trolling the forums. If you purchase something without reading it then the only person you can blame is yourself. Stop trolling people who point out that you bought something without reading the fine print.

Here is where we should be spitting out how to make PvP work. What did u like about it? What did you NOT like about it? Blah blah blah you get it. Arguing with people just because you don't like something you bought is really really (insert something funny here).


MicMan wrote:

As I see it there are basically three (extreme) modes of play if you are "evil" (and of course many shades within).

First: the open evil.
You do what you please, be it theft or murder or, most likely, both against anyone and everyone that you think you get away with. You don't care if your character is flagged a criminal. You mainly hang out in the cut throat shambles of settlements that support characters from all alignments (ie only evils go there). You likely work alone or as a member of a small band.

Second: the underhand evil
You hide behind a neutral alignment. You avoid having the criminal flag but you con, steal, blackmail and, most of all betray, others to get what you want. You are possibly member of a large chartered company, a band of mercenaries, ready to switch sides at a moments notice.

Third: the evil empire aka the outside evil
You do what needs to be done for the good of your kingdom, no qualms no holds. You declare war on peaceful small communities and take their stuff if it pleases you but you are bound by a code of rigid laws or maybe even honor. You are possibly member of a large and thriving kingdom, under the wary scrutiny of your neighbors, often accused in public.

Best description so far MicMan. I will be playing an Evil Gnome so I can't wait to see how challenging it will be espicially since somehow they say we will have a social rating or something that follows us.


Being wrote:

If you enjoy chess you enjoy PvP. If you enjoy tennis you enjoy PvP.

PvP can take many forms. Competition for profit in the market. Competition to mine a resource. In fact just about any competition is PvP.

The point is if you want to be heroic you need something heroic to go up against. Not a gigantic pinata made to look like a dragon, but a real villain. You cannot be brave unless you are at least a little bit afraid.

Every story, to be a story, has to have conflict. If you want to live out a story in PFO there will have to be conflict.

+1

Totally agree
I can see how pvp is more lifelike but i normally play games on pve. This will be fun with a group of people watching out for each other. I cant wait.


This is cool so it is like multi-classing and it will be in game? Like be a Ranger/thief/wiz or Paladin/cleric?


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I hate cookie cutter too every other game i've played lets everyone craft everythyihng... I would love to see them stick true to their tabletop design it would set them apart from the other games out there.


NeoWolfen wrote:
Eta D'Lore wrote:

Evil is so not descriptive...

What I call Evil could be what you call Good...

Is killing bad?... You say YES

Tiger kills you to feed her young... Good for the Tiger but Evil to you...
You kill a cow to feed yourself... The cow thinks you Evil you think Your doing Good...

Which was the point I was making..

@ Neo

+1
Yeah Neo I know what yor saying reminds of the after game convos I use to have all the time.

@ SouthRaven

Yeah thats funny you mention the two one of my all time favorite rp's was being a jerk/comedian i like having the option to rp anything it will be good times. i hope that my toon will be infamous for it since it seems we will have some kind of reputation. Like George Carlin!


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I hope there is room for an evil Gnome always up to no good... Kinda like them Duke Boys.


I will be playing a Gnome aww yeah!


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I played tabletop and there is not 1st or 3rd person view and I was more immersed into that than any online game. Now one time I ate a mushroom and that was more immersion than any tabletop so I guess it depends on the person right?