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Derklord wrote:
@Thefallenson: It's impossible to suggest changes if we don't know what you actually want. Are you locked in on Slayer, or is this merely the class you assumed would be best for whatever concept you have? Are you locked in on your archetype? And in general, what do you want to focus on in combat, or what do you want your character to be able to do?

My apologies. I spent so much time putting that sheet there, I didn’t ask the questions.

Melee debuff build is the goal. Slayer is my preferred chassis. I didn’t want to be a one trick pony with an intimidate build. I figured dirty trick gave more options for debuffs and what not. Does it seem like it would work well mechanically?


Power attack comes for free with +1 BAB in the Elephant in the Room stuff.

I rolled well for stats and house rules bumped my lowest to an 18.

I guess light weapons gives Sawtooth Sabers? Any others of note to look out for?


This is the build as it stands. We are utilizing Elephant in the room. Does this look appropriate, what changes if any would you suggest? Dreadfull Wrath is the 3.5 regional feat.

ECL: 9
Alignment: True Neutral
Size: Medium
Gender: Male
Land Speed: 30 ft / round

STR: 20 (+5)
DEX: 18 (+4)
CON: 16 (+3)
INT: 14 (+2)
WIS: 16 (+3)
CHA: 16 (+3)

Fortitude: +11
Reflex : +12
Will : +9

AC Normal : 22
AC Touch : 15
AC Flat-Footed: 18
Armor : Elven Chainmail +1 (AC +6, max dex +4, pen. -2, 20 lb.)
Shield: -

BAB: +9 / +4
Initiative: 4
CMB: +14
CMD: 29

-- Attacks --
* Sword, Short +1 (+15/+10, 1d6+7, 19-20/×2)
* Sword, Short +1 (+15/+10, 1d6+4, 19-20/×2)

-- Items in Backpack --
* Cruel Short Sword +1 (×1, 2 lb.)
* Cruel Short Sword +1 (×1, 2 lb.)
* Elven Chainmail +1 (×1, 20 lb.)
* Circlet of Persuasion (×1, 0 lb.)
* Cloak of Resistance (+2) (×1, 1 lb.)
* Eyes of the Eagle (×1, 0 lb.)
* Ring of Protection (+1) (×1, 0 lb.)
* Belt of Giant Strength (+2) (×1, 1 lb.)
* Headband of Mental Prowess Cha/Wis (+2) (×1, 1 lb.)
* Shortbow, Composite (masterwork, +4 Strength) (×1, 2 lb.)

Class Features / Racial Traits --
* Dirty Trick (Ex)
* Languages
* Martial Weapon Proficiency (all)
* Ranger Combat Style (2nd pick) (Shatter Defenses (Sword, Short))
* Ranger Combat Style (Menacing) (Intimidating Prowess)
* Skilled
* Sneak Attack 3d6 (4d6)
* Stalker (Ex)
* Studied Target 2 (Ex)
* Submission Hold (Ex)
* Track (Ex)
* Weapon and Armor Proficiency

-- Feats --
B)Combat Expertise
B) Deadly Aim
B)Power Attack
RB)Dreadful Wrath
H)Short Blade Weapon Group Focus
1)Deft Manuevers
2ST) Dirty Trick
3) Two Weapon Fighting
4ST) Ranger Style Menace: Intimidating Prowess
5) Accomplished Sneak Attacker
6ST) Submission Hold
6ST) Ranger Style Menace: Shatter Defenses
7) Quick Dirty Trick
8ST) Rogue Combat: Improved/Greater Two Weapon Fighting
9) Greater Dirty Trick

-- Traits --
* Auspicious Tattoo
* Dangerously Curious

- Skills-
Acrobatics +14
Climb +10
Intimidate +20
Knowledge Local +14
Knowledge Geography +13
Perception +20
Sense Motive +15
Stealth +14
Survival +9
Swim +9
UMD +16


Posting my interest. Not sure on what I would play just yet. But should have something ready by mid-morning tomorrow. I have been pretty keen on trying a Brawler, a Grenadier Alchemist, or a Slayer. Probably bland human...but I haven't trolled te SRD in a while.


Interested, looking at a Grenadier or a Stalker. Both would be friends of one of the other characters. Their friendship being the driving motivation to adventure and keep their friends safe.