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Java Man wrote:
Take off some of the pieces to reduce it to a hide shirt, which is light?

Yeah, in theory I can alter it down; and that's probably the best best, given the max Dex benefit of studded leather and the absence of difference in AC bonus.

Was hoping there might be a non-mithral route to achieve the mithral-equivalent ability of treating a given type of armor as one category lighter, but it doesn't look like that exists.


VoodistMonk wrote:
Rule Zero, buddy. GM Fiat to make it work. Or don't, it's your choice...

Not the GM, can't make that choice.

What I CAN do is look for something I can work with, and if I can't find anything, attempt to cook something up and present it for approval.

What I really need to do is find a non-material-based way to let medium armor count as light armor, specifically for the purposes of rogue/scout/Dex-build class abilities (evasion, for example).
In some cases, another class would be more in order, but this character is very reliant on damage-booster abilities of those classes to be relevant in combat; while mithral armor might be in order in other cases, where adjustment to the armor would be more viable.

I can theoretically alter the armor from medium hide into light studded-leather, but I'd hoped to find another avenue.


Java Man wrote:
Slayer is exactly a rogue/ranger blend. It might work very nicely for what you are after.

Its interesting, but the sneak attack is pushed back a bit too far for appeal, and the penultimate ability is Int-based (which the character in question will be looking at ~12 max by level 15+). Will add it to considerations though.


VoodistMonk wrote:
Pay money... transmute the pre-made armor into Mithral armor...

Not an option.

VoodistMonk wrote:
If you gave the Rogue heavy armor, much laughs, all around.

Gave a tiny-sized character hide armor without realizing he was going to be going leaning towards Dex-build.

Alternative armor is not an option. The armor is set.
Need a mechanism to treat it as light, if extant (like mithral, but not mithral), but as previously stated, don't know that something like that exists in published material.


VoodistMonk wrote:
Mithral Breastplate counts as light armor, via being made out of Mithral.

I repeat:

The armor in question is already made (its medium HIDE), what I need is a way that the character can wear it effectively while still maintaining a Dex-build whose class abilities require light armor.
I'm well aware of how mithral works, the issue is that it doesn't fit here conceptually.

VoodistMonk wrote:
The Armor Master trait negates the last remaining ACP for not being proficient with medium armor.

The issue isn't the ACP, in theory, its that the classes in question require light armor (or equivalent thereof).


doomman47 wrote:
What you need is levels in ranger instead of rogue then.

Not appealing, character's size dictates the need for a damage boosting ability like sneak/skirmish to be relevant in the desired context.

Is there a rogue ranger blend besides the obvious multiclass that fits the bill?


VoodistMonk wrote:
Buy Mithral Breastplate.

That's the no-can-do.

The armor in question is already made (its medium), what I need is a way that the character can wear it effectively while still maintaining a Dex-build whose class abilities require light armor.

I reckon I'm gonna wind up creating an alternative class feature, racial trait or something of the sort to cover this hole.


Does Armor Training allow you to treat armor as one category lighter (like mithril), or at least sufficiently to (perhaps not RAW, but reasonably) allow a Fighter/Rogue to employ their abilities which rely upon wearing light armor while wearing medium armor with armor training?

Edit... Alternatively, is there any non-material way to get medium armor to apply as light armor for the purposes of the rogue class abilities thusly limited?

Long story short, I have a character that's trying to find a way to pursue a rogue/scout-style Dex-build, but also wear hide armor. Trying to find a way to make that work, without having to just homebrew something.