Alice Margatroid wrote:
But you don't have to use APG/UM/UC/etc. If people have problems with the crunch of PFRPG, they are not going to enjoy playing a Beginner Box version of it either, I don't think, because as you said, everything stacks up... feats, spells, abilities.
You honestly don't even need to do THAT much work to run an "expanded" BB campaign that goes to level 10, using restricted CRB material only. You could probably spend 15 minutes per class, tops, extrapolating the relevant abilities. Pick 10 simple spells of 4th and 5th levels for the Wizard and Cleric. Add maybe a dozen more feats. Add a couple more skill tricks for the rogue. That's it.
I'm also pretty sure Paizo wouldn't mind if you use the PRD to expand the BB set. They've achieved their goal of making you a Pathfinder player. Now you're open to buying their other products, e.g. Gamemastery tools, Adventure Paths, Modules, Pathfinder Society, etc., that you would not have bought at all before.
I think what is really needed is not another box set but more instructions like that are in the BB that lead you more into the more advance rules of the game, for example A would say to do this, B something else, just like they did for generating a PC, all this would lead towards getting everyone up to speed on all the rules, I have not bought the BB as of yet but I will now that I have bought the Core Rulebook and it's taking me a lot longer to learn than I thought it would.
I think learning it in bite size bits such as what the BB is used for, is a lot more helpful for players like me that do want to learn the whole system, so these could be suplements not more box sets.
One more idea, a supplement to the Core Rulebook that takes off where the BB leaves off but you have to use the Core Rulebook in order for that supplement to work it would be a more intermediate supplement and could also be advanced as well so after you completed that supplement, using the Core Rulebook would be very easy and no longer confusing for anyone.
