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So there are a few things I'm noticing about goblins.

They are missing some of the flavor from PF1. There is no mention of their ingrained hatred of dogs and horses or their fear of written words. I am also noticing a lack of mentioning the goblin hero gods, it could be assumed that they moved away from worshiping them as part of changing their society but I feel as though it would be worth mention as to explain why they now mostly worship Cayden. Given that the love of fire has survived the change and that as a whole they are redeeming themselves wouldn't Sarenrae make more scene?

The other point I want to make is despite the change to goblin attitudes they still don't come of as particularly pleasant to be around (They love fire, use junk gear, pull pranks and "eat anything") nor would they be considered conventionally attractive by most non-goblin standards. Yet despite this they gain CHA as a bonus. I personally think CON would be more logical as they survive getting set on fire and eating rotten food. Alternatively if you wanted to keep the 1 physical and 1 mental, an argument could be made for INT as they can make stuff from junk.

Have some of the more disturbing elements of goblin culture been ret-coned or while the descriptions be more fleshed out in release ?

So one thing I've noticed is because of +lvl on everything you can never stay bad at something. I use swimming as an example but this could apply to almost any skill

In 1st if I want to play a char which cant swim(lets say they're scared of water) I can roll up with 7 str and never put ranks in it and my swim check would be -2 forever. Pretty good way of playing a non swimmer still a chance at passing simple checks but almost always fail the moment it gets difficult.

Now in 2ed the lowest str you can start with is 8 (I think) but being untrained also gives -2 so starting Athletics of -2. now the problem comes in when you begin to lvl as regardless of whether I want to become a better swimmer I will get better.

So by lvl 8 I have +5 Athletics (the same as a lvl 1 with trained and +4 str) so despite wanting to have a char who can't swim I can now swim as good as lvl 1 who has a good set up for swimming.

I'm left two options 1 arbitrary say I fail any swim check and artificially hamper my char or 2 I have to come up with an excuse for why my char got over what ever was stopping them from swimming. Compare this with 1ed where not only do I not have to artificially limit my char I freed up skill and attributes points to invest in other aspects of my char.

I've always tried to come up with at least one thing my characters are good at and one there bad at as a basic way of fleshing them out but now the worst I can be at something is lvl -3.

So with the addition of a new core class, new core race, archetypes in core, traits in core, more setting lore being in the rule book and artwork being a selling point, it seems the new core-rule book should be significantly bigger page/word-count wise. Is there any thing that can be said of how this is going to be fit in without a tiny font?

If I recall in the Knowdirection interview there was a statement about the page size being similar in page count to the 1st edition core rule book which makes me worried some things will be cut to fit all the new stuff in.