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ie: Thieves tools don't have an errata, the card text for discarding is 'discard this card to defeat a barrier whose highest difficulty to defeat is 11 or lower' which I read as, you can discard them to aid someone doing a barrier check, even though you can't reveal them (as that is only to your disable check), the rules have an example that suggests, but doesn't specifically state, that no use of the thieves tool is valid to aid someone, which makes the issue a little cloudy.

Only the character who encountered the barrier can defeat it. If the Thieves' Tools could let you help someone else defeat a barrier, they would have verbiage similar to Sanctuary.

Good point, well made, proves what I was saying somewhat. If you need to read multiple cards in order to understand one odd card layout, that suggests to me that the one odd card needs clarifying by errata, or since this is not a cheap game, a replacement card.

It's more a case of one of the main rules of the game: Cards do what they say and no more. The rules say only you can defeat the bane you encountered and the Thieves' Tools don't say otherwise, so they can't let someone else defeat their bane. I only contrasted Sanctuary because it's an example of a card that does more because it says it does.

True, with thieves tools it is simply a case of the wording being unclear, it could easily have said 'your' at almost any point and voila! no problem. though too many uses of the word 'your' and it would feel like they had tourette syndrome :P

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ie: Thieves tools don't have an errata, the card text for discarding is 'discard this card to defeat a barrier whose highest difficulty to defeat is 11 or lower' which I read as, you can discard them to aid someone doing a barrier check, even though you can't reveal them (as that is only to your disable check), the rules have an example that suggests, but doesn't specifically state, that no use of the thieves tool is valid to aid someone, which makes the issue a little cloudy.

Only the character who encountered the barrier can defeat it. If the Thieves' Tools could let you help someone else defeat a barrier, they would have verbiage similar to Sanctuary.

Good point, well made, proves what I was saying somewhat. If you need to read multiple cards in order to understand one odd card layout, that suggests to me that the one odd card needs clarifying by errata, or since this is not a cheap game, a replacement card.

Example of another (not quite so) card heavy game, I recently bought the expansion to a plaid hat game, it came with an extra pair of cards, one said, The glorm teleports card with the ranged symbol is a corrected card and replaces the glorm teleports card with the melee symbol found in the sealed deck of cards.

If Robrob1961 quote from Printer Studio of 7-12 cents a card is at all accurate, then at worst for a full 110 cards it will cost $13.20, and at best $7.70, +p&h, which since I'm paying $20 +p&h per expansion which are getting less buggy all the time, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that a set of errata/clarification cards could be made and included free! (since I expect the 7-12c/card included profit and was for retail not wholesale).

Given that I will have sunk about $160+ dollars on this game when it is finished, and I don't imagine they are going to print errata cards or a pdf of errata cards until the final expansion has been out for at least a month, I'm willing to put yet more money in so that in 5 years when I pull it off the shelf for a nostalgic game, I don't have to search through pages of errata which might not even be on the website anymore.

G'day, has it been suggested yet to reprint/sell multiple decks? so 1 deck that includes the errata, and one deck for blessing of the gods. Probably want to do a third deck with character cards for those people who like to write on cards. Honestly I'd be happy to pay $16ish for each deck, so that I don't have to sit with the faq open on my tablet and search every card.

ie: Blessing of the gods not getting recharged when it duplicates the top card of the deck is a massive change and one I didn't even think to look for, I just ran across it in another thread. Which will make me search the faq more often.

ie: Thieves tools don't have an errata, the card text for discarding is 'discard this card to defeat a barrier whose highest difficulty to defeat is 11 or lower' which I read as, you can discard them to aid someone doing a barrier check, even though you can't reveal them (as that is only to your disable check), the rules have an example that suggests, but doesn't specifically state, that no use of the thieves tool is valid to aid someone, which makes the issue a little cloudy.