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Really is a masterpiece. Read it cover to cover. Congrats to the team and we can't wait to use the new rule for Iron Player! I'll be looking for the team to sign this at Gen Con. Bravo, Bravo.

Fantastic job guys! I would also like to get the 25mb version so I can print of an actual calender!

Going to say it anyways but you know I'm on board so this is I would say is more for the players.

This years Iron Player will make last years look like a visit to candy land.

Be ready! Cause its coming back stronger than ever!

One more for the road.

Fixedit

Necessary Evil wrote:

Someone has to do it.]

Cheating

Fixed the link for you.

Odd I cut it from photobucket.... dang it.

Someone has to do it.

Cheating

Took me long enough to get though all of these. About pissed myself twice!

Was just going to do this myself. Thanks for saving me some time!

I like where this thread is going.

As for the DCs for crafting I have been doing this in my 3.5 game for awhile but seeing cleaned up with some solid rules is a blessing.

Now a few things and ideas for you.

I feel that other classes should be able to craft magic items with out being a spell caster and I have an idea or two to help this out.

Since we are talking about a penalty for not having the spell on your list
what if we have a few tool kits that make up for this.

1. They can be a one time use or something that is permanent. Which ever would balance more. Say it functions as a tool equal to having up to 1st,2nd,3rd or what ever spell level it is. Cost of the tool could be gold amount x spell level equivalent = cost to buy.

2. They could buy a scroll of the spells needed and burn it up crafting the item. Like transferring the magical essence of the scroll to the item being created. This once again could substitute not having the spell or being a spell caster penalty.

I also agree with Kong on using items in place of spells or to create magical items. Our gaming group has been doing this as well and they love the feel of history it bring to an item. I feel it could be added in one of the side boxes that Paizo has been using. Similar to how the DMG had the alternate rules to summoning on DMG pg 37.

Many of you have summed this up so well and I feel I'm writing this more for those that have put the time and effort into making such a well crafted campaign world and system to play it in.

I have been a DM for over 18 years and I started by running Greyhawk. After some time I moved on to Realms. I liked Realms for a long time being a R.A. Salvatore reader but the world lost its shine to me after awhile. I felt boxed in by the knowledge players had on the world. Anytime I wanted to changed something written in Realms history there was someone fighting against it. It started to remind me of Star Wars arguments. So I turned to making my own world.

Now in Golarion the book gives you ideas not solid lines. Entries though out the do a phenomenal job with culture and how the civilizations view one another. The gods are there to work for the player and DM but not to hamper their creativeness. Thankfully what they don't do is leave this locked in set of history that players feel can't be changed. The world has some serious thought put into it. Each country is a life all its own and they did a great job capturing the individual feel of them without over burdening the reader.

As a DM I enjoy layout of the campaign book more than I have any other published world over 3.5s lifespan. Everything is easy to find. The book its self is build solid and the art is fantastic! As writers they have years of building a rock solid foundation while publishing Dungeon and Dragon magazines. Not to even mention the Pathfinder series. Paizo also makes it so a new DM or a Vet can run a game in the world while feeling at home with a minimal amount of study.

Above all else they care what the people playing and buying think. This is what we all have wanted in a company and in a campaign world. I mean look at it, they put an open beta out for the system and are extremely active on the boards. Not only did they listen but the implemented things we wanted to see. How often do we as the players, fans and supporters do we get this out of our hobby now days.

Great job guys and keep it up!

Great site.Been using that for a few months now.

It was a lot of fun. I'm sitting down now to start reading over it. Can't wait to see whats in there.

Oh for those that missed the story of "Aboleth Falling."

http://seesmic.com/video/FGiJcFf7jy

Just want to say I'm extremely pleased with the creations rules and I can see a lot of the things my group has been doing for years in there as well. Its a good set up. I can also say coming from a few month run of 4th edition its nice to have some good crafting rules again. Not saying I dislike 4th just that I miss some things from OGL. Figured I'd put that out before getting shot.

Necessary Evil wrote:

So I know that this has some of the magical items that where missing from the beta but I remember back in August there was another download that had magical items in there. I need something out of it for reference yet I can't find a place to download the web enhancement. Anyone know where I can find it on the site?

Hmm, that file is not where I thought it was. Let me look around and make sure that the first spells and magic items addendum is still available.

Edit: The file can be found in the Beta download documents. If you download the chapter by chapter files of the Beta, the magic item and spells addendum is part of that package.

Thanks got it to work. Now off to create the most wonderful of wondrous items.

So I know that this has some of the magical items that where missing from the beta but I remember back in August there was another download that had magical items in there. I need something out of it for reference yet I can't find a place to download the web enhancement. Anyone know where I can find it on the site?

Nice I'll have to read though 16 tonight. Thanks for the quick response!

Necessary Evil wrote:

Lou was saying in another thread that he typed up all the notes from Ascension of the Drow and passed them on to you. My question would be what number does the stuff appear in?

Have up to 16 sitting on my self but I'm not currently running that path yet.

What is Ascension of the Drow?

This was a huge event Paizo put on at the GenCon 08. There was around 150 to 180 people playing and creating the history of the drow found in Second Darkness adventure path. I had a blast helping run this event with some of the most skilled people I have had the honor to game with in years.

Lou was saying in another thread that he typed up all the notes from Ascension of the Drow and passed them on to you. My question would be what number does the stuff appear in?

Have up to 16 sitting on my self but I'm not currently running that path yet.

I am in, I already have an idea but want to wait for the create rules tomorrow before I get into it to much.

Nice it should be a fun run. I have some serious mojo brewing.

Will do Lou. I'll start it tonight.

I have them all and I have been looking through them. It can't be the first few parts because those where out. I just got 16 and the map seem familiar but looking for some of the events that where recorded. Such as who took the crown, the poison gas, the falling aboleth...ok that won't be in there but still.

I'm coming and bring the hammer down this year! Missed last year because of the video game production. This year though I'll make time even if I have to steal someones.

Ancient Sensei if you are in this time consider it a warm up for Iron DM.

I was looking for something similar to the table in the 3.5 DMG for creating magic items. The one for adding spells, how many times a day, charges, so on and so on. Does Pathfinder have this yet or should we just use this table for the time being?

Kill for a beta copy? Right Paizo? Fans playtest monsters? Just a thought.

So I helped run Ascension of the Drow and this years GenCon and i know the stuff we did there was supposed to show up in on of the Second Darkness chapters but not sure which one. Anyone heard anything about this?

So its been awhile since i posted here but i have 3 things that i'll ball up here.

1. The box set is something I am working on but trying to figure out if its going to be 4th or Paizo Patherfinder. The campaign world is almost completed.

2. I am starting up my own video game company called Sunder Studios and our first game is going to be set in the same world i ran at GenCon. Not only will be set there but it will be built in an episodic style.

3. Wasn't the stuff we did at Ascension of the Drow supposed to how up in a Pathfinder issue?

Hey Necessary Evils I wanted to thank you for running the 4e game for us. It was a lot of fun even though I had to be the worst Warlock ever in a game. I like your world, let me know if you plan on doing a box set like you were talking about I will buy one in a heart beat.

Will do. I'm working on it over the next few months and putting a PDF together first. The video game company is keeping me pretty dang busy so i may slow my down a bit.

Thanks again for playing in my world as well. Its great to hear what people think of it.

Necessary Evil wrote:

Thanks a ton! I wanted a show for those that paid to play and I have even bigger hopes for next year!

Next year I'd like to have four cameras covering the room -- digging deeper into every DM's story the way poker shows reveal what cards the players are working with. In voiceover I'd probably summarize every DM's storyline, but I'd ask the DMs, when engaging a major event in their game, to call a cameraperson over and to, momentarily ripped away from their game, quickly explain what's going on at his or her table. Once I can get this to be a yearly, hour long film with an actual sense of narrative and suspense, we'll be golden.

And next year do let me know ahead of time when you're doing something big so I don't keep my camera down by my hip as I stare on aghast, actually believing your stunt lock, stock and barrel ;)

Down with retelling the story but not in the middle of the game. It breaks stride for the event.

Thanks a ton! I wanted a show for those that paid to play and I have even bigger hopes for next year!

I hope so. It was one of the funniest things at a Con I have ever seen.

As I promised! Aboleth falling!

http://seesmic.com/video/FGiJcFf7jy

z28camaro90 wrote:

Evil man you have to post up your Big Fish story. We are still laughing about it.

Is that the Aboleth's fall from 300"+?

Tell you what I'll do better than that I'll record it and post it up for all to see. I'll do it tonight and set it up.

Necessary Evil wrote:

Great night it was we MFed the heck out of them but what a time!!! Nick give me a ring I have some ideas for ya!

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEvil! :D Was great meeting you (and your avatar looks remarkably similar to you) and you did a fabulous job as Vespard Dolour and GM. :D

Thanks Lilith! Great to meet you as well! As for the avatar I just happened to stumble on it and lets face it there is nothing sexier than a saytr...or so they always think. Loved the event and I have an EPIC idea for another just waiting to hear back from Nick or Frost.

It will be even better the next year!!!!!

Bray Abbitt wrote:

Watcher wrote:

Since Acension of the Drow sold out so fast.. is there any chance of a second running, perhaps on Saturday? It seemed like a wildly popular event...

Probably not, so I'm not pinning my hopes on it or anything.. :)

But if you never ask, then there is no chance of it even being considered.

Please consider this as 'putting the thought in your heads'

I asked a couple of times too, Still have not heard yet. Hopefully, they'll be enough interest and resources to do another. It is the only event I need to complete my Paizo GenCon sweep.

While it would be awesome to do so, I think another slot of Ascension would MURDERIZE our volunteer GMs and also be hard for Gencon to place at this stage.

Great night! WE Murder F@$ked the heck out of them but what a time!!! Nick give me a ring I have some ideas for ya!