So...In our group, we have a party of 4 level 17 characters, a Barbarian, a cleric, a Alchemist, and a sorcerer. And the party just one rounded Karzoug...I get this feeling I am missing something. Karzoug rolled a 2 on his init, and then he died before he could act...so the group has agreed to rewind and let me figure this out, but how is this right? what am I doing wrong? I'm factoring his SR and stuff, but still...Any ideas?