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I'll add my praise for Downer. The characters are fantastic.

My only gripe is that you killed off Serjenko. WHY?????


Lightless Depths is a little vague on what happens to the trog heretic Irgzid once ther PCs meet up with the aboleth about mid-way throught the module. So vague in fact that I can find no mention of him whatsoever!

Now I happen to love the little guy, so what do you think should happen to him once his role as guide expires? The obvious idea would be for the PCs to adopt him as a cohort, but his CE demeanor might make that a little difficult.


Cool, thanks for all the help!

I look forward to throwing my players into this trap tomorrow.


I'm also assuming that the passageway to the secret doors and crocodile is sloped upward so that people can reach the secret doors right? A ladder would be a bit noticeable.


Ahhhhh.....

So I'd assume that if the cave was flooded as it says in the description, the edges of the illusory wall room and secret doors would be 3ft above the waterline yes?


I'm going to be running Savage Tide this Saturday.

I'm fairly okay with most of the adventure, but the crucible completely stumps me. I've read through it several times and I just don't get how it works.

How does the illusiory wall room not get flooded? Are there an entrance apart from the trap doors?

Basically if someone could give me an explanation of exactly how the crucible room works, that would be great. Thanks in advance.


I’ve Got Reach wrote:
"We're gonna need a bigger boat."

"that's not a log, it's a gator!"


I’ve Got Reach wrote:
"We're gonna need a bigger boat."

"That's not a log, it's a deinosuchus!"


Queen of Shadows wrote:


He got on the bad side of many of the characters, by informing them that they were not doing enough for nature, when he himself seemed to be lax in doing so. In fact he told the party healer. (Playing a Healer from the Minatures Handbook) she should be ashamed of herself for not going out there and helping her friends.

She said if your so nature bound, why don't you, isn't nature about the survival of the fittest ? It was an honest question, he got rude, and the party is protective of there healer, we really do not need that kind of treatment, than the stone salve incident, he was very vainglorious.

Sounds like the DM was really going for the a**hole angle when playing him then.

In that case, the reaction is warranted.


Here's my votes:

BARBARIAN: The dwarf guy is new and Krusk always seemed fairly savvy for a barabarian to me...
Winner: Krusk

BARD Assuming this is a straight up fight, the drow wins easy. Anyone remember him taking down the two corrupt celestials in "Spire of long shadows"?
Winner: Drow bard

Cleric: This one is actually a bit tough. Tyralandi can hurl meteors (Library of last resort), but Jozan can cast symbol of pain...
Winner: Jozan

Druid: Good money is on Vadania to win this one, although her wolf will get munched by the elf's dino.
Winner: Vadania

Fighter: This is really a question of twf vs axe and board. Although that extra level Tordek gets due to the Tiefling LA...
Winner: Tordek

Monk: This could be a fairly even match-up. Both Ember and the new monk are buff as heck. But I'll go with experience for now.
Winner: Ember

Paladin: Please...
Winner: Abelard

Ranger: I actually had a funny vision of this fight. The two duke it out for a while, until Solveliss appears to be winning. But just before he finishes her she says "Wait, you forgot something", "What?". She then smiles and replies "A whole class feature", after which her cougar devours Solvellis
Winner: Half-elf ranger.

Rogue: Lidda is truly one of the classier iconics. Plus the half-elf rogue seems to face nothing but bad luck.
Winner: Lidda

Sorceror:I really dig Hennet. So I'm going with the popular choice
Winner: Hennet

Wizard: Let's see, bad-ass human female with demon familiar or gender ambigous wierdo?
Winner: Human wizard

Final total:
WOTC:7
Paizo:4

Hmmmm


Sebastian wrote:
The WotC Iconics would whup the butts of the Paizo Iconics. Half the Paizo Iconics are weighted down with crappy +x ECL levels. Besides, we all know that the WotC Iconics are always dripping with whatever goodies are on offer in the latest supplements, whereas the Paizo Iconics are probably built using a 20 point buy core-rules-only type system.

Only 2 members of the Paizo inconics have LAs at a whopping +1 for the tiefling fighter and +2 for the drow bard.

And I don't think you're giving thr Paizo iconics enough credit. After all, we have seen the Ranger stare down a dire tiger and the cleric cast meteor swarm.


Belfur wrote:


Bards and fighting it out with a sword eh rapier...hardly their turf!
Rather ask who could conquer the heart of a lady or the ear of the duke or who will get the needed information quicker or bluff himself out of being caught stealing from a dragon's horde, sooth the giants anger by singing or telling a story. I have to agree that the drow will win in a head-on-head fight, but as soon as you involve hiding and sneaking, the odds change.

Aw great, you had to go all serious on me :p


I had this wierd idea that popped out of nowhere the other day.

Basically it was a series in which the iconics from Dungeon battled it out with the WoTC inconics (Krusk, Mialee etc) for supremacy, ala DC vs Marvel.

Who do you think would win in this situation? The only battle I could visualise would be the one between the Drow bard and Gimble. The drow takes one look at his opponent, then breaks the fourth wall, asking if the writer is serious and then procees to punt the gnome.


I don't live in Hungary, I'm a hungarian living in Australia.

I can't actually speak Hungarian either... I've been meaning to start learning one of these days...


Yeah, remember in Pirates of the Carribean when Jack is reffering to two ships as being the makings of a fleet? He wasn't joking.

5 ships is a nice invasion force. This was mainly to do with the amount of money it costs to build a ship.


While I'm not currently playing in or running ST, I think you're being slightly harsh on the poor fella'.

How is a request to save a baby diplodocus from terror birds demanding? Unless your party is entirely made up of apathetic lone wolves or evil characters, they should probably be doing it anyway.

And since when does he not give out the stone salve?

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