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Michalangello wrote:
VoodistMonk wrote:

Outside of Flurry... assuming a Improved Unarmed Strike and Monk... for a single attack, everything on your body is your "main hand" for your single attack.

You can punch with any of your four hands, or pelvic thrust, or headbutt, or shoulder strike, or knee strike as your "main hand" in a single attack.

This is the same for any Monk with Improved Unarmed Strike, regardless of how many limbs/heads/appendages he or she may possess.

In a full attack routine, that is not Flurry of Blows or TWF based, you can attack with any part of the Monk as many times as your BAB allows you to attack in the round.

So basically You are saying that extra arms do NOTHING.

How is this possible?
So a monster with 100 arms could only attack once per round etc?

Is it not that 2handed monk starts with two attacks and both of them counts as “main hands”?

So therefore 4 handed creature should have 4 attacks?


VoodistMonk wrote:

Outside of Flurry... assuming a Improved Unarmed Strike and Monk... for a single attack, everything on your body is your "main hand" for your single attack.

You can punch with any of your four hands, or pelvic thrust, or headbutt, or shoulder strike, or knee strike as your "main hand" in a single attack.

This is the same for any Monk with Improved Unarmed Strike, regardless of how many limbs/heads/appendages he or she may possess.

In a full attack routine, that is not Flurry of Blows or TWF based, you can attack with any part of the Monk as many times as your BAB allows you to attack in the round.

So basically You are saying that extra arms do NOTHING.

How is this possible?
So a monster with 100 arms could only attack once per round etc?


VoodistMonk wrote:

Normally you only make one attack, plus one for every 5 points of BAB after 1, with your "main hand" each round.

Flurry of Blows and TWF work the same mechanically... each gives you an extra "off-hand" attack each round. Flurry of Blows scales with your BAB to include the Improved TWF attack later on.

Improved Unarmed Strike eliminates the whole "off-hand" being only associated to hands, now you can pelvic thrust or headbutt or whatever.

A 4 armed alien with Flurry of Blows/ TWF still is limited to one attack, plus one for every 5 points of BAB after 1, with its "main hand" each round... and one extra "off-hand" pelvic thrust from Flurry of Blows. Maybe an extra extra "off-hand" attack with a high enough BAB, since Flurry of Blows scales with BAB.

The true genius of the 4 armed alien is its ability to wield two Butchering Axes and do fun TWF/Double Slice/TWRend shenanigans as the 2-Handed Fighter archetype, abusing the Backswing class ability with TWF...

What about situation outside flurry of blows?


Captain Zoom wrote:

If your GM allows you to take it, as a four-armed Kasatha, you wouldn't take Two-Weapon Fighting, you would take the Multiweapon Fighting feat.

NOTE that you DO NOT need to take Multiweapon Fighting to use Flurry of Blows. You would only take it if you wanted to use the Two-Weapon Fighting rules as modified by multiweapon fighitng) INSTEAD of the normal Monk rules for making unarmed attacks. Under the normal Monk rules, there is no such thing as an off-hand. If you use Multiweapon Fighting, then you have a primary attack and secondary attacks, similar to two-weapon fighting.

If you take a monk archetype that removes Flurry of Blows, then using Multiweapon Fighting is a reasonable substitute.

And if your GM allows it, the Unchained Monk is much more satisfying to run than a regular old-fashioned Monk.

Goodluck and have fun!

Ok, to does it clearly says that Kasatha can make 4 attack’s (due to having 4 arms with full bab and full str bonus due to the fact that “there is no such thing like off hand for attacking monk” ???


Hi! Just a quick one here.

I would want to make a Kasatha Monk in PF.
However my DM said that due to the race description saying “Kasatha has one main hand and all others are considered offhands.
However, monk class subscription clearly states that (while attacking) There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed.
Could someone with dependable knowledge (like Jason) confirm that monk trait override racial trait in the case of Kasatha?

I did I found out that Jason have expressed himself on that matter before, however I have been unable to find that very piece of information.

Kind regards
Michalangello


Tarrs Tarkas wrote:

To late for an edit.

I just realized it doesn't matter. I do not HAVE to flurry. I get Full BAB, and I full str anyway just because there is no offhand for a monk striking unarmed. So yeah a Kasatha monk who doesn't use Flurry of Blows is still WAY better then a normal monk. Four attacks at Full BAB under normal Multiweapon Fighting. (Jason confirmed this in his Ask Jason thread)

Hi! Could you please point me to where Jason said that?

I have been through his entire thread and could not find it.

Much appreciated


Hi! Just a quick one here.

I would want to make a Kasatha Monk in PF.
However my DM said that due to the race description saying “Kasatha has one main hand and all others are considered offhands.
However, monk class subscription clearly states that (while attacking) There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed.
Would You (Jason) please confirm that monk trait override racial trait in the case of Kasatha?

I did I found out that You have expressed yourself on that matter before, however I have been unable to find that very piece of information.

Kind regards
Michalangello