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** spoiler omitted **...** spoiler omitted ** Ah I see, not ignorant just trying to understand your viewpoint given it appeared to not really be gaslighting to myself? The word gets thrown around a lot incorrectly nowadays and I didn't see it being applicable here for Nocticula, is all.
** spoiler omitted ** Sorry I'm trying to understand here; Spoiler: What exactly about this is Gaslighting? They're not denying that these events happened, and it's hardly a secret what Nocticula once was. They're just saying it's not important to her faith now, it's about what she is NOW rather than what she USED to be. Unless you think her Cult would be better off obsessing over her past and former nature, which isn't really what her faith is or has ever been about?
But yeah, Pharasma's approach is a bit like preventing climate change and global warming, Necromancers are effectively burning fossil fuels in a funky cosmic way.
Norns aren't her enforcers though? They tend to fate but do not have any innate connection with Pharasma, she didn't create them or set them to task and it's not mentioned or implied anywhere that she did. The Stolen Fate situation has no bearing on Pharasma or the Afterlife and is basically just a non-sequitor you brought in to be like "Actually she kinda sucks huh?"
In other words (Spoilers for Stolen Fate AP)
Spoiler:
no the AP didn't have anything to do with Pharasma, but Trip has decided since the Norns involved want to re establish fate, and Pharasma held purview over Prophecy, that somehow she is responsible and thus the questionable behaviour of the Norns is on her. Despite the fact she never appears and the Norns also serve other deities and themselves Tldr; jumping through hoops to demonize Pharasma
People will argue that Pharasma is akin to a Necromancer and is evil/a hypocrite/vile and somehow not reckon Necromancers are the same for doing the same thing they're trying to argue Pharasma is doing but worse. A Necromancer is not trying to prolong the cosmos with their actions, they're vioalting souls to make corpse slaves to do their bidding and polluting their own souls to become undead horrors. Why are you willing to give them a pass but demonize someone who is actively trying to make sure the slopped together system doesn't just collapse into a entropy-hastening free for all of soul-snatching, soul consuming and undeath profilerating chaos? On a related note, no Pharasma did not lie about Prophecy being a thing, she may have had it in her portfolio but it was a real thing that existed beyond her and others interacted with. It wasn't her just making stuff up, unless one wants to argue that she did indeed make it all up and somehow lost the ability to just lie through her teeth after Aroden died?
** spoiler omitted ** Interesting, can you also share the Mythic Destinies if you don't mind?
Okay real talk what is your opinion of Undeath and Necromancy? Do you hold the opinion it is only bad because authority figures (Gods) say it's bad and that it's actually normal and fine?
Geb is such a shining example of why Undeath isn't actually bad and that Pharasma is just an evil dictator who hates freedom. Hey what's it like to be a living person over there anyway? They must all live in perfect harmony with all these really cool and morally superior undead beings right?
Thing is, Undeath is not a stable form of existence. They are all, without exception, subject to an eternal hunger that is by its nature insatiable. It will not destroy them to ignore this hunger, but doing so will erode their minds (if they have any) until they are either destroyed or embrace it. Indulging in it also isn't great, because no matter how ethical they try to make it the more they indulge, the greater and more depraved the lengths they'll go to in order to feed this bottomless "hunger". (This can be literal or metaphorical hunger, from a Ghoul's hunger for flesh to a Lich's hunger for knowledge.)
Wait what parts are explicitly OGL and should be scrubbed/altered? |
