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Hey now I'm not being obtuse; like I said, we had assumed this was the case. Sometimes though it's nice to know actually what is intended rather than going "yeah this seems like it's wrong" and not checking. Simple fact is, a post said "new rules apply to RotR" not "new rules apply to RotR but ignore X" so clarification was sought. Ain't no need to be pulling out the obtuse bomb.
Thanks Mike, will do -- have you set up a specific thread for that or just make them as they come up? Also, while I have your ear -- is that actually what you meant for this? That we do indeed disregard the new die vs skill rule for RotR and allow our buffs to improve our weapons/attacks?
Haha it's cool guys, i'm not attacking the game i'm just trying to get some clarity. Mike's suggesting we use the new rules, but he's not suggesting we make the requisite changes to our cards, so I just wanted to make sure how this was intended. For what it's worth, we decided to not use the new rules for that specific usage and we were pretty sure that was what was meant to happen, but you know, when the designer of the game says "use the new rules" not "use the new rules but disregard the ones about die vs skill" you have to check!!
In a recent Paizo post about the new Skull & Shackles rules, Mike says We recommend that you use it as your main rules reference even if you're still playing Rise of the Runelords. For the most part we don't have a problem with this but with regards to combat this seems pretty unfair. For example take Kyra's current weapon in our campaign: This says For your combat check, reveal this card to roll your strength or melee die +1d8 +2. Now in the new rules, strength or melee die is taken to mean the DIE only of the applicable skill: Rules: Skills, Dice and Modifiers Take Kyra's current stats in our game. So in the RotR rules for our campaign, Kyra can use Impaler of Thorns with a d6+3 + 1d8+2. However if we use the new S&S rules, Impaler of Thorns is just a d6 + 1d8+2, completely ignoring any skill buffs she has accrued along the way. This applies for pretty much all weapons in RotR (at least up to deck 3) and possibly all attack spells etc. It seems to us as a group that this new "apply the new rules to the old set" policy is pretty unfair and isn't in the spirit of Pathfinder which applies your new found skills to make your weapons deadlier as you grow in expertise. As it stands, Impaler of Thorns doesn't get any deadlier no matter how much Kyra practices with it! Worth noting though that in Skull and Shackles, the new cards have been adjusted to take the new "die vs skill" rules into account so it feels like you're just punishing the RotR folk? Phew longest post ever. Thoughts? |
