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Gisher wrote:

I'm not exactly sure where you are getting 12.

• As you said, a Wizard with Improved Familiar Attunement Thesis and a Witch both have familiars that start with 3 abilities and eventually have 6.

• Either can take Enhanced Familiar to get 2 more abilities for a maximum of 8.

• Either can take Incredible Familiar to increase their abilities to 10. (The Wizard would need to take Witch Multiclass or Familiar Master to get access to that feat.)

That's the maximum for the standard, switchable abilities. There are two other options, but they don't get you standard, switchable abilities.

• Druid Multiclass gives access to Leshy Familiar Secrets which lets you add one Leshy ability, but the familiar needs to be made into a Leshy first. (A Witch could use Wortwitch to do this.) So that's 11 if you count the Leshy ability with the standard ones.

• Improved Familiar can effectively get you more abilities with a specific familiar. For example, if a specific familiar has 5 abilities and normally costs 5 abilities to acquire, then Improved Familiar would get you 5 abilities for the price of 3 so you'd effectively be getting 2 extra abilities. But specific familiar abilities aren't changeable and often don't match the standard abilities so the count becomes complicated there.

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To help your research, here is my list of ways to get familiars and increase their number of abilities.

• Gisher's Guide to Acquiring Familiars

It was my understanding that you add the 4 abilities from Enhanced Familiar to the baseline you get from just your class, and when you're able to take Incredible Familiar you get 2 more?

Edit: thank you for the info though!

Oooooooooooooh I see what I did.

"You can select four familiar or master abilities, instead of two."

I'm not exactly sure where you are getting 12.

• As you said, a Wizard with Improved Familiar Attunement Thesis and a Witch both have familiars that start with 3 abilities and eventually have 6.

• Either can take Enhanced Familiar to get 2 more abilities for a maximum of 8.

• Either can take Incredible Familiar to increase their abilities to 10. (The Wizard would need to take Witch Multiclass or Familiar Master to get access to that feat.)

That's the maximum for the standard, switchable abilities. There are two other options, but they don't get you standard, switchable abilities.

• Druid Multiclass gives access to Leshy Familiar Secrets which lets you add one Leshy ability, but the familiar needs to be made into a Leshy first. (A Witch could use Wortwitch to do this.) So that's 11 if you count the Leshy ability with the standard ones.

• Improved Familiar can effectively get you more abilities with a specific familiar. For example, if a specific familiar has 5 abilities and normally costs 5 abilities to acquire, then Improved Familiar would get you 5 abilities for the price of 3 so you'd effectively be getting 2 extra abilities. But specific familiar abilities aren't changeable and often don't match the standard abilities so the count becomes complicated there.

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To help your research, here is my list of ways to get familiars and increase their number of abilities.

• Gisher's Guide to Acquiring Familiars

It was my understanding that you add the 4 abilities from Enhanced Familiar to the baseline you get from just your class, and when you're able to take Incredible Familiar you get 2 more?