Sanakht Inaros wrote:
In the US we live enmeshed within vast matrices of all-encompassing laws and codes that are enforced at the discretion of law enforcement officials. Lives and property are routinely destroyed for minor offenses or just the appearance of minor offenses. Children are charged with sex crimes. Elderly cancer patients are taken from their wheel chairs and have their diapers searched at the airport. Peaceful protesters are sprayed with chemicals and beaten. We live in a de facto police state already, whether or not you have felt the boot on your neck; these new developments only make it official. Ron Paul is wrong about a lot of things, but not this.
Robert Hawkshaw wrote:
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm trying to get at. I guess I'll put Durkheim on the TBR list. And I think a lot of people turned to Dungeons and Dragons out of a craving for the stories and myths that transmit values -- or at least the trappings thereof.
GentleGiant wrote:
Ok, thread blew up and might end up being locked, so I'm not going to give this the attention it deserves, but... The mixing of cultures is inevitable and has been going since different groups of people discovered different ways of doing things. What bothers me is ideological multiculturalsim. A civilization that bends over backwards to tolerate and appease all worldviews doesn't have a coherent one of its own. A society that teaches that values and traditions are arbitrary and all equally valid uproots itself from its own history. And when people feel uprooted and unconnected, they no longer care and they become nihilistic in a basic, existential way. This is a broad generalization coming, but I'd say that modernism and post-modernism have dealt the West a crippling spiritual blow to both the secular and the religious. And until we deal with that fundamental issue it is all just right vs left ping pong.
These rioters are what you are going to get after raising generations in a relativistic, value-less, multicultural, consumerist environment in which everyone feels entitled to whatever they want just for the great feat of being born. Prevent access to the consumer goods they need to fill the holes in their souls, images of which they are bombarded with constantly, and when economic realities set in and they can't have those things they are going to simmer in rage. Do bad economic policies need to change? Certainly. But the heart of the problem is that Western civilization is sick and rudderless. Why should backward and/or medieval immigrants to the West change their practices or worldviews once they get here and see how empty and hollow our societies are? Europe will be fully part of the Islamic world by the end of this century, and the US will be a strange, little Byzantine Empire. I think I'll have a margarita! Edited for spelling but not pessimism.
stardust wrote:
You mean Captain America, right? I don't think he's a racist. Ron Paul on the other hand is an Ayn Rand-worshiping nutball who would like to turn back the clock to the 19th Century. He's a philosophical iceberg. The 10% or so you immediately see makes sense and you are glad he is saying the things that he is saying, but underneath there is 90% untenable bullshiat. If our greatest defender of liberty is a pie-in-the-sky, anti-choice Libertarian crank, then we are in serious trouble. |
