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Problem is any other book it might be a bit more clear cut (Even though I wouldn't have noticed any of the stuff unless pointed out and even after cant really see a lot of it) but unless I'm mistaken and it has been a while since I have looked into the lore anything involving Fey has a certain offenses and uncanny valley feel to it. So maybe it is Ai or it could be someone trying to create a level of uncanny that people think looks like Ai.

I could be mistaken but I believe the way that part of the adventure works gives a workaround (Not sure if it's actually in the adventure itself or something they decided to do because it does sort of make sense.)

just to check does the gold get used from oldest first (I assume it does but want to be sure.)

Mammoth Daddy wrote:

Are we going to get Ydersius content anytime soon? I think he’s one of the most underplayed villainous gods so far in second edition. I know we had a lot of Ydersius content in the Serpent’s Skull AP but there hasn’t been much since then.

The reason for that is that we pretty much told his story already in Serpent's Skull. We DO have some more serpenfolk story stuff coming soon in the Vaultlines Adventure Path, but it's not a Ydersius focused story.

Speaking of serpent skull do you feel like with second darkness, serpent skull is an ap that could do with a remaster if somewhat for different reason (Second darkness more the whole no drow thing. serpent skull more the middle being a bit of a mess although I say this as someone who loved the first and last book.)

I do apologize if this has already been asked but I was wondering how feasable it is to play none vault dweller species in this ap?Is it doable or is it more playing goblins in ROTRL sort od doable but require a lot of changes?

Really loving the adventure but out of curiosity I seem to recall this was I think F. Wesley Schneider adventure he would run at conventions I'm just wondering if this uses any parts of those ones he ran at all or was it keep the basic notes and build up from scratch?

Are the invaders the dominion of the black or something new?

To be fair I much preferd the old Lini and Merisiel designs myself)

I recently moved from DnD to PF2, partially and mainly because of WotC's greedy practices.

've said it before and I'll say it again unless they have literally sent the pinkertons to the owner of AoN's door comparing them to wotc is misguided at best.

My advice watch the Owen video linked above it helps explain the situation.

Okay so many people have mentioned other parts so just to add if memory serves this Ap paths had A looooot of problems during development if memory serves including at least one book (City of spears I think?) Have it's writer ghost the project leaving one of the paizo staff needing to write it up at incredibly short notice.

Also from what I can tell other people are still able to leave reviews (Assuming dates on ones I can see are correct.)

Okay so tried to leave a review and the website is not letting me do it instead seems to be something mentioning called customer testimonials covering all paizo reviews (Tried on both chrome and Firefox)

Kind of curious as to what happend to the children of westcrown.

The plan is not to replace the drow stuff with one thing. It won't be a one-to-one swap. It's more complicated than that, which means it's not something we can easily do in the same way we did a "we don't have shambling mounds anymore but try sargassum heaps" sort of way or even a "green dragons are gone but try out horned dragons" sort of way.

Some of it will be serpentfolk. Some will be Aiyindilar. Some will be stuff we haven't yet put on paper. None of that stuff is done cooking yet.

Fair enough I do hope whatever you do does still lean a fair bit on keeping the elf side of things and I really hope you somehow find a way to retcon the retcon of a certain pathfinder.

Kevin Mack wrote:

While I dont disagree there would need to have been significant retcons I dont think they would have been insurmountable (Stop me if I'm wrong but if memory serves only one drow city has ever really had much attention payed to it and that was the one in second Darkness.)

Out of interest, if you're willing to have very significant retcons to the scale I was discussing in my post, what is it about Ayindilar that are insufficient for your interest? They're very much not trying to fill the same purpose as drow, and are not a replacement for them, but they're about as related to drow as the example I used in my last post, I think.

Actually thats what I was arguing for replace the drow for the Aiyindilar keep one group in Zirnakaynin as the daemon worshiping ones and have the rest be more nuance like what they did with the goblins and orcs maybe somewhat weary of outsiders and rather than mostly gone replaced by snakemen.

While I dont disagree there would need to have been significant retcons I dont think they would have been insurmountable (Stop me if I'm wrong but if memory serves only one drow city has ever really had much attention payed to it and that was the one in second Darkness.)

vyshan wrote:

I am going to assume that all the drow stuff is just going to be retconned away.

It has already been made canon that all pre-existing mentions of drow came from lies spread by the first couple of PFS agents who discovered the serpentfolk empire underneath Avistan, and - worried about what may happen if the truth got out - fabricated the story of the drow. All drow settlements have been retconned to actually have been serpfentolk settlements the whole time, with the exception of the Drow capital, which is abandoned but has basically been quarantined off by the serpentfok, who are clearly scared of something about the settlement/its history. We've got a bit of information on the post-Remaster Darklands in the final volume of Sky King's Tomb!

Thats another thing that annoys me the in world explenation dosent make much sense even if you ignore the whole of second darkness said reasoning being. "we were worried about people learning about this evil emprire so we made up a completly diffrent evil empire to cover it up." (Yes I am still salty how they threw my favorite pathfinder under a bus for it.)

And the people who encountered Drow in Second Darkness were all huffing paint? Or the other Drow encountered on the surface in a multitude of adventure paths?

This is still the one decision by Paizo regarding lore I like the least. Yes, it's legally understandable, but lore-wise it made everyone I told about it, who are players who encountered Drow on multiple occasions in multiple AP's, go "This makes absolutely zero sense", which is exactly correct.

I do think they did go a fair bit over the top with it especially when they kept Kobolds near enough the same I get they couldent keep drow as drow but no reason they couldent have changed them all to cave elves or something (I doubt Wizards could copyright the idea of elves that live underground and yeah I get that they would have to do more retconning than just the name but none of it could have been as big as they never existed) So I do suspect there were certain other problematic elements that made them decide it was to much trouble.

Kevin Mack wrote:

Elfbarf wrote:

It also seems like they've perhaps jumped the gun on the price increases - I'm now seeing Hellbreakers PDF at $49.99 instead of $39.99 and I do not believe 16th March has arrived yet.

Yup can confirm was charged the incresed price a full 12 days early.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention—the price was not supposed to be raised to the new point! It is being adjusted currently.

So are the people who were overcharged going to be refunded?

More likely, increasing PDF prices helps to offset the cost of producing physical books and if that's the case it just feels bad to ask digital customers to basically keep physical sales afloat.

Honestly that is my suspicon as well that there using digital to subsidise physical (Which is unfortunate since I suspect physical in the long run is just not sustainable on the production scale Paizo has.)

It also seems like they've perhaps jumped the gun on the price increases - I'm now seeing Hellbreakers PDF at $49.99 instead of $39.99 and I do not believe 16th March has arrived yet.

Yup can confirm was charged the incresed price a full 12 days early.

For some reason I'm now being charged tax on my PDF purchases which I wasent before so that $49.99 is actually $58.99 That is a pretty steep increase in price. so would be nice if someone could explain what this Tax is and why it is now a thing?

As the Title says actual book seems to be available but I cannot figure out how to navigate the website to find the PDF version (Assuming it is available now.)

As the title says just read the players guide and I am curious to see how much (if any) that previous ap plays in this one (More because I want to see how it matches up with the how age of ashes ended for my group with the order of the Torrent running the citadel.)

To be fair I also think it was the over the top types of evil the ap got into (One that comes to mind was the option to skin someone and wearing it as angel skin armour)

Merle meanwhile "Ha they completly missed us right guys ............................. guys?"

Just want to check what is the default assumption of the Sihedron from shatterd star Maybe I missed it but I dont remember it being mentioned at all in this ap. Is it assumed it was destroyed during return?

Merle updated took maximise spell, combat casting for feats, Chain lightning, cone of cold, Tongues communal and stone to flrsh for spells (Last one may prove to be interesting here.)

Assuming each square is 5 foot Merle would be out of range of the gaze and aura right?

Yeah this is one of the easier ones to explain away as she did have a look (Probably when looking for a place to build/take over as her new city decided it wasent viable chose where she chose and never looked back

There been a change on when pdf only purchases go up for sale? The physical book seems available for purchase but PDF seems unavailable.

Kevin Mack wrote:

Before I take my action with Merle just want to check if this spell would count as offensive magic Telekinetic charge

It looks like it can only be cast on a ‘willing ally’ though

So would karrin be willing to be telkenetikly thrown at someone?

Nice art on the cover is that the final or if not where is it from origonally?

Havent been keeping up with the lore of the setting but does this mean the origonal background for Golarion dragons been completly reworked from the ground up?

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Any idea how long it will take to do the transfer over?

Before I take my action with Merle just want to check if this spell would count as offensive magic Telekinetic charge

I just think it’s ridiculous and moronic that Paizos success came from presenting an alternative to the worst d&d edition ever published, and then they decided to give a big middle finger to all the fans of the game by making their 2nd edition essentially a clone of 4e. You exist because of how bad 4e was, and you did a 180 and made your own version of it.

I would have called it a masterstroke of marketing myself. I mean the fact that it's what 7ish years later and still going strong indicates going this route was not a mistake (and I say this as someone who prefers first and does think pf2e was at least heavily influenced by 4e.)

Oh the irony I find this quite perplexing since I would say it's the opposite way round. I mean they have literally been doing the whole Noctilla possible redemption thing since either early pathfinder or maybe the 3.5 erra wheras the Arzani one basically comes out of no-where (It is pretty well done though I will admit.)

Maybe it's less Gaslighting and more they assumed people would have been following her story up to this point and not wanting to use a lot of the space retelling a story they already told elsewhere? (Since she has had a deity article before plus numerous entries in other god books and guides.)

dirtypool wrote:

Aberzombie wrote:

Has anyone watched the movie through VoD? I've heard they either made a change, or people are just now noticing a bit at the end which now casts doubt on whether or not...

** spoiler omitted **

It’s not new. People were citing on Twitter on day one.

Ah, so new to me. Since I don't twit. I wonder why Gunn would insist it was a real message? Maybe he actually is setting up for a future mystery.

If memory serves he never actually said yes or no about it being a real message. instead he said they tell you in the film.

hate to be more negative but I see myself less likely rather than more getting ap's now Lot to plop down for a single purchase and previously I could buy the first volume and decide if I wanted the rest or not which I obviously cant do with this new format.

To be fair I am not actually against redemption stories Noctilia great redemption story, Arzani great redemption story. (Also funnily enough all 3 happening within a relativly short time frame of each other and Sorshen is the weakest redemption story of the 3 IMO.)

moar spoilers since the forum crashed when I was trying to add them to the previous post.

zimmerwald1915 wrote:

vyshan wrote:

What was the issue with Sorshen to begin with?

Being a Runelord entailed a lot of mass murder and enslavement as a matter of course. Sorshen decided to avoid starting up with that again not out of any realization that her actions were wrong but largely out of fear of the sticky ends her fellows met. And she was spectacularly successful in avoiding that outcome for herself, going above and beyond evading any negative consequences for her past deeds (not having to give anything up in reparation or as an earnest of her good faith) to maintaining or increasing her lavish lifestyle, personal and political power, and status. It comes across, at least to me, as a blatant exercise in narrative favor.

She spent 10.000 years in conscious stasis, I think that counts enough of a punishment. And actually the idea of imprisoning people is (at least in the civilized countries) to reform them, so I think her self-inflicted stasis absolutely counts as being successful in her case.

Kevin Mack wrote:

Oh also unleashing a small army of vampires upon the world once she woke up. that and the whole baving in the blood of people to become immortal so she could have that 'revelation' to begin with.

She did not "unleash an army of vampires". She released them to die and go to the great beyond. Source: Runeplage, page 67, bio of the Sorshen simulacrum.

Well either someone made a mistake or they since retconned it since thats a plot point in a certain module

Oh also unleashing a small army of vampires upon the world once she woke up. that and the whole baving in the blood of people to become immortal so she could have that 'revelation' to begin with.

Admitadly now that allighment is no longer a thing I'm a bit less annoyed about the whole Sorshen thing these days.

Also to be fair a lot of her acts are by this point are pretty well known to anyone who studdies Thasilonion but random bob who runs the shoe store no idea and since she is a sponcer of outcasts and people with no where else to go I would assume she is quite well liked in her own city/lands at least.

Also they havent fully spelled out how these work. Using an example I'm familiar with it could be a case of when you check out next to or near the payment or payment methood button is one that says you have x discount do you wish to use it ? If it's like that you dont even have to really keep track of it if you dont want to.

I'm no longer a subscriber to anything at Paizo, so I don't really care either way personally, but my reaction to this is that it's simply too complicated to care. I shouldn't need a spreadsheet to figure out what discount perk I get. Just make it similar to before - subscribe to X things and get Y discount. Gaming rewards is far less fun than playing the games Paizo makes.

I suspect part of the point is to reward customers who are frequent but arent subscribers (Like me) as well as subscribers

Kevin Mack wrote:

When one has a subscription, one can cancel it if finances aren't looking so hot, the product line does not draw interest, or access means change.

When one is signed onto this new program again, Paizo is a business, and is making the business choices that they feel are good for their model it forces a situation of expected participation that could cause dramatic concern for some.

and with this system for me at least there is no fiddly messing around with subscriptions for things I do or do not want or cant afford etc why am I suddenly going to decide Oh i'm not interested in x product but I'll buy it anyway to get x points I dont do that when I'm ordering my 40k minis so I dont see why it would happen with this