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Any idea how long it will take to do the transfer over?
I just think it’s ridiculous and moronic that Paizos success came from presenting an alternative to the worst d&d edition ever published, and then they decided to give a big middle finger to all the fans of the game by making their 2nd edition essentially a clone of 4e. You exist because of how bad 4e was, and you did a 180 and made your own version of it. I would have called it a masterstroke of marketing myself. I mean the fact that it's what 7ish years later and still going strong indicates going this route was not a mistake (and I say this as someone who prefers first and does think pf2e was at least heavily influenced by 4e.)
Oh the irony I find this quite perplexing since I would say it's the opposite way round. I mean they have literally been doing the whole Noctilla possible redemption thing since either early pathfinder or maybe the 3.5 erra wheras the Arzani one basically comes out of no-where (It is pretty well done though I will admit.) Maybe it's less Gaslighting and more they assumed people would have been following her story up to this point and not wanting to use a lot of the space retelling a story they already told elsewhere? (Since she has had a deity article before plus numerous entries in other god books and guides.)
Ah, so new to me. Since I don't twit. I wonder why Gunn would insist it was a real message? Maybe he actually is setting up for a future mystery.It’s not new. People were citing on Twitter on day one. If memory serves he never actually said yes or no about it being a real message. instead he said they tell you in the film.
To be fair I am not actually against redemption stories Noctilia great redemption story, Arzani great redemption story. (Also funnily enough all 3 happening within a relativly short time frame of each other and Sorshen is the weakest redemption story of the 3 IMO.)
What was the issue with Sorshen to begin with?Being a Runelord entailed a lot of mass murder and enslavement as a matter of course. Sorshen decided to avoid starting up with that again not out of any realization that her actions were wrong but largely out of fear of the sticky ends her fellows met. And she was spectacularly successful in avoiding that outcome for herself, going above and beyond evading any negative consequences for her past deeds (not having to give anything up in reparation or as an earnest of her good faith) to maintaining or increasing her lavish lifestyle, personal and political power, and status. It comes across, at least to me, as a blatant exercise in narrative favor. Well either someone made a mistake or they since retconned it since thats a plot point in a certain module Shadows at sundown spoilers: When Runelord Sorshen
abandoned the Eurythnian Vault deep under Korvosa to found New Thassilon, the minions and creatures she’d kept imprisoned in the deep underground chambers were set free. Most of these creatures fled, eager to put as much distance as possible between themselves and Sorshen, fearing a potential change of heart from the notoriously mercurial runelord. But some remained, including an ancient, deadly strigoi vampire named Aliriel.
Also to be fair a lot of her acts are by this point are pretty well known to anyone who studdies Thasilonion but random bob who runs the shoe store no idea and since she is a sponcer of outcasts and people with no where else to go I would assume she is quite well liked in her own city/lands at least.
Also they havent fully spelled out how these work. Using an example I'm familiar with it could be a case of when you check out next to or near the payment or payment methood button is one that says you have x discount do you wish to use it ? If it's like that you dont even have to really keep track of it if you dont want to.
I'm no longer a subscriber to anything at Paizo, so I don't really care either way personally, but my reaction to this is that it's simply too complicated to care. I shouldn't need a spreadsheet to figure out what discount perk I get. Just make it similar to before - subscribe to X things and get Y discount. Gaming rewards is far less fun than playing the games Paizo makes. I suspect part of the point is to reward customers who are frequent but arent subscribers (Like me) as well as subscribers
or maybe your just looking at it the wrong way. I mean how is this any more or less 'predatory' as the current subscription service which also encourages you to buy more stuff?
I think it is just you because the video game thing is having to trade real life money for fake video game money to buy stuff that often in the past would normally have just come with the game. Now if paizo begins saying you need to spend £10 in order to get chapter 9 of the book you already bought or spend spend £20 in order to get the ultra deluxe super fighter of ultimate ownage then it might be close to the video game microtransactions but at the moment it's a reward scheme pretty much exactlly the same as every 3rd party website that sells tabeltop minatures Ive ever visited uses.
In fairness, this particular change has been made before. Smallville did the same thing in Season 2, similar messages existed in the Post Crisis Eradicator introduction. This is not new. It is also left unresolved, so that it is likely setup for a future story. Perhaps involving a character who is alternatingly a superior intellect/a futuristic AI in control of a series of Matryoshka doll like robots/ Kryptonian AI construct/obsessive collector of long lost civilizations. As did my adventures with superman to an extent. Also considering who is responsable for said reveal it is possible that is not what was actually said or that it was made to be interpreted in the most harmfull way possible.
I'm sorry untill they start literally sending the pinkertons to peoples doors I'm going to be say anyone comparing this to the stuff WOTC has done is frankly being ridiculous. Yes they are changing how the the thing works and yes that does mean some people are going to be worse off than under the old system but also some (Like me) will be better off and others will basically break even. Admitadlly I'm very used to buying model gaming stuff (GW) from third party supliers who often have point reward systems which this pretty much exactly is with a few extra bits (points for birthdays.)
Stop me if I'm wrong but technically is starfinder not a completly seperate timeline/ alternative timeline from the current golarion one so no quarantee what happens in one also happens in the other?
(Talked about slavery and drow...) Spoiler: Dont want to be putting words in your mouth but from what's been mentioned does this mean there will be a bit of a walk back from the inital described fate of the drow (Rather than plane not existed at all to maybe more a form of cave elfs or similair?
I clearly havent been paying much attention which developers have left recently?
I feel that if Arazni (a lich) and Nocticula (a demon lord) can change their ways, surely a human such as Sorshen can change too. I would also argue there is a big diffrence in that those two never really had a choice in the matter whilst Sorshen willing chose to do all that stuff (Also dosent help in the ap itself it comes across less as wanting redemption and more sick of the other runelords with a dose of not wanting ganked by the next adventuring party that comes along)
To be fair of those 3 the only one who I hate getting the redemption ark is Shorshen. As said Arazni was forced into the evil role and Nocticula If memory serves they had been working on her redemption arc before pathfinder was even pathinfer (Ie still 3.5) Shorshen on the other hand is a person that is a mass murderer, a manipulator, a slaver and well considering the number of concubines and her area of magic specalty certain other unfortunate suggestions as well. On the matter of Arazni becoming one of the core 20 maybe I'm misremembering or new lore has been added in since the end of 1e but the impresion I had always got was she was completly uninterested in the whole being a goddess and followers thing so does strike me as a bit of a change in attitude to me.
Honestly might have worked better if they had held off for a few months on this one.. things that happen after this ap: ...and had this set after the godsrain and used that as the inciting incident that causes the inital outburst of violence (Since his falling 'blood' seems to increase battle and violent tendancies wherever it lands.) and had it been a shard of Gorums armour/essence be the thing that revivies Ruzadoya. I think that would have helped smooth over a lot of the problems in this ap
Wasn't dungeon crawls in general I was talking about and more what I meant is whan I say mega dungeons is basically where the ap takes place all in one dungeon. Also when I say a lot I mean compared to 1e (Only one that comes to mind over the whole 10 year run of 1e is the emerald spire). The other thing ive noticed is that all the megadungeons seem to always be low-mid lvl so might have been more interesting if it had been a mid-high lvl mega dungeon (Probably also has to do with me always viewing vampires as more high lvl foes.)
Do you think using a party from a higher finishing Ap would work with this with a bit of handwaving/reasoning? (either been a while so they have lost there edge a bit so to speak or in the cases of an ap where they got powers from an outside source said powers have faded over time.)
Just wanted to thank you for the Shalelu update during the Adventure Path panel, veeeeeery interesting developmentI do hope for a Shalelu or Shroud cameo; it would be nice to see how they have evolved over 17 years (especially for the art) *fingers crossed* Mind sharing what the development was or is it something we already know? (Ie she is appearing in an upcoming AP?)
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