OK, partly test if this alias just gets removed on principal or because I have not used it to post anything worthwhile as yet and partly to address the "test" GM just proclaimed as a success:
All that was proven was that your post is just as effective at keeping away dragons. There have been no dragon sightings since the post was made and so therefore it must be the post keeping them away. ;)
It is not religion that is the issue. The issue comes about when people, even otherwise rational people, take hold of a belief, ANY belief, be it religious, political or just down right nutty and hold on to it as THE TRUTH ... you know, THE ONE AND ONLY TRUTH. This leads to a loss in rational thought when it comes to THE ONE AND ONLY TRUTH THAT SHOULD BE ACCEPTED BY ALL which in turn leads to VERY BAD THINGS.
Religion has nothing to do with it other than the fact it is a subject which is centered around belief ... much as politics ... or alien conspiracy theories ... or this map I have of a secret route to Atlantis ... WHICH IS REALLY R'LYEH!!!!!
Yeah, there is silliness in there, but it surrounds the TRUTH, so hopefully it has some merit.
OH, and before I forget.
Aretas, the questions I had originally posed were:
1. If, as you stated elsewhere, that civil liberties should be denied to gang members and they should be treated as terrorists, would you still hold to this position is you were accidentally identified as being a gang member or affiliated with a gang and subjected to the same treatment? What if it was not you but your parents or children?
2. Assuming your answer is yes (and I apologize if I am assuming incorrectly), at what point does the harm done to those who are innocent become too much of a cost?
Or to summarize with a film tie in (Brazil seems appropriate), how many Mr. Buttles are acceptable in the fight against gang violence?