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James Risner wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Bracers of armor work. they're a constant force effect that doesn't require activation. The standard issue druid hide armor does not.

No they do not work, because they are an armor bonus.

Yes they are a constant force that doesn't require activation.

The easiest way to get an armor bonus is 'Mage Armor', IMO. I've never seen any GM rule that Armor bonus null, since it's a spell, not an internal effect.

I've always interpreted that rule to mean that any armor or shield that was worn by the Druid was absorbed, and therefore the bonus was reduced to zero. If mage armor (or, depending how the effect works, Bracers of Armor) creates an effective 'shield' on top of your 'hide', then I don't see ANY reason why it wouldn't stack, the same way barding stacks on top of a mounts' natural armor.

And if anyone thinks that's too powerful, I'd love to compare any shapeshifted Druid's AC to the average tank, or even light fighter. It could be decent, but not exceptional, especially when the level gets to the 'look at my +3 plate and +3 shield' level. LOL


I would greatly look forward to reading this book, as I boh GM and play. In fact my entire group is of the neutral persuasion and some will stray torwards the naughty side (obviously looking forward to June's supplement greatly, as well. Please consider for a fall or Winter release. After all, fair is fair: Good, Bad, and Ugly.

Also, GMs love customizing and fleshing out the NPCs beyond 'not just another Evil Cleric villian'!

As it turns out, most of us here at Paizo think it'd be really cool to see a "Faiths of Corruption" book as well.

Some folks like playing evil PCs. I'd like to periodically support that play style. Unlike epic rules or psionics, the rules for playing evil characters already exist. There's no actual barrier to play characters like this, apart from the psychological, so it's not like we'd be producing a book that only a subset of the customer base would be able to understand.

And I suspect that a "Faiths of Corruption" type book would NOT be a poor seller, because folks love the evil, and more to the point, this would be one "Player's Companion" that GMs would, I suspect, pickup in DROVES if only for use with NPCs.


Sir Georik : Heaven's Legion! ENGAGE!

Cue dozens of mass volley attacks, hundreds of magic missiles, positive energy channellings, flanking grapplefests, absolute minimal civilian casualties, and smite smite smite smite smite.

Yeah, it would be awesome.

Of course a party of all-Bards with Leadership would really bring the Party!! Not nearly as damaging, but you could probably incite revolution (or quell it) in any given City-wide dance party.

And Paladins have that whole do-good, don't profit too much thing going on. With a legion of Bards, you could get Hellknights to drink themselves to exaustion, then rob them blind, causing them to face thier government and disband.

Or get a fleet of Pirates to invade Westcrown. Remember to teleport after the piss hits the surf, as it were. Big overture, crashing crescendo. Remember, players- Nondetection rings are your friends, they'll keep you out of torture chambers.


Green and Black dragons are some of the more underappreciated tacticians IMO. My first encounter, years ago as a player against a black was pretty horrifying to us, since he was literally popping up everywhere out of the depths of an underground sewer/swanp, and either snatching a party member to his doom or spraying the party with acid and disappearing. (We were saved by extremely clever tactics and 3 critical rolls out of 5, and OH, the GM forgot the attack of opportunity rules, which the dragon provoked, while we managed some tumling accross a stone bridge-best battle in years!)

As a GM, I use Greens as kind of the philosopher/manipulator evil dragons. Lacking the bloodlust of Reds, the cruelty of blacks, and the stupid savagery of whites, they're more likely to split the group in thier native forests, entangling them night, stampeding forest creatures and snatching thier magic items and eating thier mounts (or just calling for huge tributes from the forest depths!

lEAVE YOUR MAGIC AND YOUR ANIMALS, AND I WILL ALLOW YOU TO SURVIVE.

If they don't acquiesce, then have the Green use its claws to tear most of the backs of some large trees away (like 30 in a small clearing) angled to fall towards approaches. then use his acid breath from hiding. If the Paladin's pinned under a connifer, He's not smiting anything except pine sap.

What makes Dragons so powerful is thier cunning, resources, experience, and brains. Thier lairs are often like Special ops fire traps. If you can even find the damn things. Younger dragons often hide them very well, since they're more afraid of larger dragons than they are of you.

Just my 24 and 1/2 cents. Adjusted for inflation.