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True heroes know that evil is not an abstraction, nor a concept to be debated. Rather, it is a relentless adversary, a dark tide that seeks always to roll over the world, turning the hearts of gentle souls with its claws and whispers. Against this onslaught stand a proud and pious few: those priests and soldiers who dedicate themselves in body and soul to the forces of light, ready to lay down their lives in defense of the innocent. Aided by the powers of their gods, these stalwart champions use sword and spell, faith and ferocity to protect all that they hold dear. For they know that if they do not—who will?

Faiths of Purity presents a player-friendly overview of the good-aligned religions of the Pathfinder campaign setting, along with new rules and information to help players customize pious characters in both flavor and mechanics.

    Inside this book, you'll find:
  • Information on each of the major good-aligned gods and his or her corresponding religion, including what's expected of adventurers of various classes, ways for the faithful to identify each other, taboos, devotions and ceremonies, church hierarchies, holy texts, religious holidays, and more
  • New traits to help represent and cement a character's background in the church
  • New feats and combat tricks for all holy warriors
  • New god-specific spells for a wide variety of spellcasting classes
  • Paladin codes for sacred warriors of each major god, as well as new organizations and knightly orders
  • Details on good-aligned minor deities, racial gods, empyreal lords, and more!
    Faiths of Purity includes key information on:
  • Cayden Cailean, god of freedom, ale, wine and bravery
  • Desna, goddess of dreams, stars, travelers and luck
  • Erastil, god of farming, hunting, trade and family
  • Iomedae, goddess of valor, rulership, justice and honor
  • Sarenrae, goddess of the sun, redemption, honesty and healing
  • Shelyn, goddess of beauty, art, love and music
  • Torag, god of the forge, protection and strategy

Written by Colin McComb

Each bimonthly 32-page Pathfinder Companion contains several player-focused articles exploring the volume’s theme as well as short articles with innovative new rules for social, magic, religious, and combat-focused characters, as well as traits to better anchor the player to the campaign.

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-314-9

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Excellent Introduction to the "Good" Gods of Golarion

5/5

Faiths of Purity is a well-conceived entry in the Pathfinder Player Companion line, with a stated premise to showcase the "good" gods to adventurers and laypeople of all stripes, not just clerics and paladins. I really like the idea, as religion can and should be part of a campaign setting that affects far more than just a couple of PC classes. Starting off with what you have to admit is a pretty awesome cover (repeated as the inside back cover), the inside front cover summarizes (including portfolios, alignment, domains, favored weapons, centers of worship, and nationality) the seven good-aligned "core" faiths in the Pathfinder setting: Desna, Iomedae, Shelyn, Cayden Cailean, Erastil, Sarenrae, and Torag.

After a brief introduction that summarizes the theme well, the bulk of the bulk is devoted to two-page entries on each of these seven faiths. Each entry is divided into a one-paragraph summary of the god and then one to two paragraph long sections titled "Adventurers" (what adventurers who worship the god tend to be like), "Classes" (how different classes do or do not tend to fit in with the faith), "Goals" (what a worshipper of the god wants), "Identifiers" (clothing, symbols, or other markers commonly associated with the faith), "Devotion" (how lay worshippers act and demonstrate their allegiance), "Other Faiths" (how worshippers see and are seen by those of other faiths), "Taboos" (what worshippers *won't* do); "Traits" (two different Religion traits, most of which are bland and unimpressive), and finally, "The Church" (the longest section, with an overview of holy sites, church rules, holy texts, symbols, etc.).

The important thing to remember about these entries is that they explain things from the view of what everyday worshippers (and most PCs) would know. These entries are not "high-level" church theory or geopolitical roles, but are instead insights into how worshippers behave and see the world. They're thus perfect for players wanting to run a worshipper of one of these gods, and far more useful than material in most other books or on a Wiki. I'd strongly suggest passing this book around during character creation if someone is interested in the "good" gods of Golarion. Before moving on, I should also call out the artwork, which is really good!

The next section of the book is "Minor Deities" (4 pages). This is a bit of a hodgepodge section, with "lesser gods of goodness" like Apsu the Waybringer, Kurgess the Strong Man, and Milani the Everbloom receiving a few paragraphs of description and one trait each. Next, there are a few paragraphs (and a trait) devoted to each of the racial pantheons: Dwarven, Elven, Gnome, and Halfling. These sections were odd, in that it's not just the good deities from each of these pantheons that are covered (thus confusing the theme of the book), and there's far too little space to do each pantheon justice. The traits for gnomes and halflings aren't bad though. Last, there's just over a page on the Empyreal Lords (sort of demigods), with about a paragraph each on Andoletta, Ragathiel, Arshea, Korada, Valani, and Sinashakti. There's a single "catch-all" trait for worshippers of any Empyreal Lord. Again, there's just not enough room to make the coverage of these faiths satisfactory, and I wonder if it would have been better to save it for a separate book later on.

"Organizations" (2 pages) provides an introduction to organized groups that are outside of a faith's official clergy. Coverage includes the Banner of the Stag (Erastil), Deepdelvers (Torag), Glory of the Risen Rose (Shelyn), The Halo of Blades (Sarenrae), Knights of Ozem (Iomedae), Starstone Brewers (Cayden Cailean), and The Whispered Song (Desna). Two of the organizations really stuck out to me as fantastic. First, the Glory of the Risen Rose is all about spreading beauty and artwork, and one can imagine so many original adventures that could stem from it. Second, the Starstone Brewers are all about helping the orphans that are inevitably left near battlefields, the sites of natural disasters, etc. Entire campaigns could be themed around either of these two organizations, and offer something very different to the norm.

"Combat: Righteous Warfare" (2 pages) introduces one or two new feats for each of the major faiths covered in the book. I have to commend the writers for coming up with feats that are tied, flavour-wise to the corresponding faith. Substance-wise, the feats are hit or miss, with some potentially really useful (Desna's Butterfly's Sting or Erastil's Bullseye Shot, for example) and others so underwhelming as to be forgettable (Torag's Stone Read and Undermining Exploit). There is a drawing of a classic "bikini armor" woman on page 26 that is regrettable.

I really liked "Faith: Paladin Codes" (2 pages), which offers customized Paladin codes for several faiths that supplement what's in the Core Rulebook. These new codes really help to distinguish Paladins from one another, and are well-tailored to emphasize the particular themes of different deities. Erastil's code contains several elements relating to community and tradition, for example, while Shelyn's code incorporates concepts of beauty and love.

"Magic: Spells of the Faithful" (2 pages) introduces at least one new divine spell for worshippers of each of the major faiths in the book. Overall, I found them flavourful but rather weak in a mechanical sense. They're also all very low-level spells, an area in which clerics, paladins, and druids aren't exactly hurting for choices.

Finally, there's "Social: Religious Holidays" (2 pages). This is the sort of thing that's really important for adding depth to a campaign setting, even if most players will overlook it (because the odds of a day "in game" falling on one of these holidays is slim).

Overall, this book is exactly what a Player Companion should be. It provides a clear, readable, and interesting introduction to an important element of the campaign setting, it gives useful advice on how to portray and interact with that element, and it introduces some "crunch" options that aren't unbalancing. Apart from the "too fast to be good" problem in relation to racial pantheons and Empyreal Lords, Faiths of Purity is a winner.


A source of ideas not rules

5/5

I found this player companion rather inspiring, in that it help me think about how faith in a campaign setting can guide player character behavior. I enjoyed the art, and the way the prose was written. I really did not need more charts and tables.


5/5

I have reviewed this book over on RPGGeek.com.


5 stars to each page

5/5

If I could give 5 stars to each page of this book I would. Paizo did good in choosing the illustrious Colin McComb as author. Colin not only wrote some of my favorite Planescape books (Including the fabled rarity - Hellbound: the Blood War), he wrote my favorite rpg book of all time, The Complete Book of Elves.

Colin did not dissatisfy as this book is amazing to read, useful for players and DMS, and beautiful. It is the first piece of a 3 book series I am guaranteed to value in my collection for years to come.

I enjoyed reading the flavor for each faith, giving me the inspiration to run clerics the way they are meant to be, as members of a greater organization. It also gave me the ability to incorporate faith into my non-clergy characters. The idea of a barbarian saluting Cayden Cailean with a drink before a battle with slavers was totally inspired by this tome.

The concept of a greater body behind each cleric is not lost on me; I am inspired by this book to add this kind of flavor every time faith is represented in my games. This book breaks it down by perspective of adventurers, classes, goals, identifiers, devotion, other faiths, taboos, traits and the church itself. I can look in this book (and the other 2 that are yet to come) when creating clerics, deities, and churches.

I haven't even scraped the surface of what this little 31 page book gives as there are minor deities including nonhuman racial deities, and Empyreal Lords (Which I have been looking for content on), more organizations (because I never want paizo to stop giving us factions), and religious holidays (the calendar plays a huge part in my game, I really needed this).

This books isn't all flavor as it gives combat feats, traits (under each faith), and spells. I bought this book for the flavor and yet I still got some crunch I can apply to my religious characters. The feats aren't exclusive to faiths so we there are a few options for everyone.

Buy this book if you are interested in role playing your characters with more depth, running your campaigns with more religion, and interested in learning more about Golarion. I truly enjoy this book and consider it one of the most valuable that I have; it truly speaks to how I play and gm.


Great resource!

4/5

Bottom line - I love this book. It's a great idea for a product line and players and GMs both can benefit from the expanded information.

Check out my full review here.


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Gorbacz wrote:
Did he write up a code for a Paladin of Asmodeus as well ? /ducks

I could write the dress code for them, as I always dress up as a Paladin of Asmodeus for the Majestrix's birthday party!


James Jacobs wrote:

As it turns out, most of us here at Paizo think it'd be really cool to see a "Faiths of Corruption" book as well.

Some folks like playing evil PCs. I'd like to periodically support that play style. Unlike epic rules or psionics, the rules for playing evil characters already exist. There's no actual barrier to play characters like this, apart from the psychological, so it's not like we'd be producing a book that only a subset of the customer base would be able to understand.

Please do a book covering the evil faiths (and one for the neutrals, too, eventually). I know I'd get copies of all three. Hey, I'd like to knoew what I get if the join the faithful of Lamashtu.

Seriously -- these are books I want to get and will buy.


Sean K Reynolds wrote:

Okay, Colin just sent me his writeup of the paladin codes for this book (written in first-person perspective, mind you), and all I can say is....

Wow.

Wow wow wow.

These.
Are.
Awesome.

I would love the a Pathfinder Companion book stricly on Paladin Orders myself

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I am delighted to report that the book has been chiseled from the walls of its subterranean cavern, and has further been delivered to the gentle, polishing hands of Mr. Reynolds.

I just wish they'd stop giving me full-body searches every time I leave the word mines.


Colin McComb wrote:
I just wish they'd stop giving me full-body searches every time I leave the word mines.

Yeah, sure you do. That's how we know the word mines are intentional.

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Eric Hinkle wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

As it turns out, most of us here at Paizo think it'd be really cool to see a "Faiths of Corruption" book as well.

Some folks like playing evil PCs. I'd like to periodically support that play style. Unlike epic rules or psionics, the rules for playing evil characters already exist. There's no actual barrier to play characters like this, apart from the psychological, so it's not like we'd be producing a book that only a subset of the customer base would be able to understand.

Please do a book covering the evil faiths (and one for the neutrals, too, eventually). I know I'd get copies of all three. Hey, I'd like to knoew what I get if the join the faithful of Lamashtu.

Seriously -- these are books I want to get and will buy.

Faiths of Balance (the Neutral one) is already listed for June


Sean K Reynolds wrote:

Okay, Colin just sent me his writeup of the paladin codes for this book (written in first-person perspective, mind you), and all I can say is....

Wow.

Wow wow wow.

These.
Are.
Awesome.

Sounds good, it will be nice to have these though I wonder what sources they draw on/were inspired by. The big problem with the codex for paladins in my experience is that most people see the codex as proof that paladins are lawful stupid and have the life expectancy of a Mite.

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They're drawn on the philosophy of the deities and Colin's experience in writing engrossing dialogue and stories, such as the award-winning Planescape: Torment.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

I've added the proper author credit to the product description. The text is still preliminary, and the image is still a mockup.


Ohh I am not doubting the skill and accomplishments of Colin not at all, it is far more that I was interesting if there were any literary, movie or similar sources to draw on to adapt the outlook of what a codex would contain and/or be inspired by.

I have fears but I'll leave them somewhere hidden until the finished product is my hands.

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Zouron wrote:

Ohh I am not doubting the skill and accomplishments of Colin not at all, it is far more that I was interesting if there were any literary, movie or similar sources to draw on to adapt the outlook of what a codex would contain and/or be inspired by.

I have fears but I'll leave them somewhere hidden until the finished product is my hands.

Well, perhaps Colin will weigh in next time he reads this thread.

In the meantime, I'll quote James Sutter, who just read the various paladin codes and says they are "awesome." :)


Not to be nitpicky but:

Quote:
Faiths of Purity includes key information on

Didn't we already get this in Gods and Magic? And in various articles about gods in Adventure Paths? And in Campaign Setting?

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Toadkiller, you should read the rest of the thread, you're not the first person to ask that question. :)


Well, now I feel silly. :D Read the last page of the thread, completely forgout about the exsitence of the first page. Thx Sean. :D


Sean K Reynolds wrote:


In the meantime, I'll quote James Sutter, who just read the various paladin codes and says they are "awesome." :)

Looking forward to the result :)

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Sean K Reynolds wrote:
In the meantime, I'll quote James Sutter, who just read the various paladin codes and says they are "awesome." :)

Kinda love that while a Paladin of Iomedae may be pretty standard 'Paladin' fare (all knightly virtues and whatnot), a Paladin of Erastil, Shelyn, Sarenrae, Torag or Abadar might have different areas of concern, reflected in their codes.

Seven good gods, seven neutral gods, six evil. Could a seventh evil faith sneak in there as well, say, the Old Cults? We've had some tantalizing Lovecraftian hints, but, other than Groetus, we don't really know what sort of things the 'Old Cultists' revere (or, propitiate, anyway).


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I'd love something that would explore the cult of Groetus more.

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Zaister wrote:
I'd love something that would explore the cult of Groetus more.

Maybe they deserve their own book.

Faiths of Purity.
Faiths of Balance.
Faiths of Corruption.
Faiths of Mind-Shattering Non-Euclidean Insanity.

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Each book devotes some space to "minor" deities of the appropriate alignment or theme. For example, FOP talks about Milani, the Empyreal Lords, and so on. So Faiths of Balance will talk a little bit about Groetus (he's CN).

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MILANI ! Let the roses bloom on bloodied cobblestones !

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Zouron wrote:

Ohh I am not doubting the skill and accomplishments of Colin not at all, it is far more that I was interesting if there were any literary, movie or similar sources to draw on to adapt the outlook of what a codex would contain and/or be inspired by.

I have fears but I'll leave them somewhere hidden until the finished product is my hands.

For the most part, I used the faith itself as the inspiration for the paladin codes. Someone who follows Erastil, a god of homespun wisdom and small communities, is going to have a significantly different outlook on what is good than someone who follows Iomedae, the crusader and caller-to-adventure. For each faith, I asked the Conan Question ("Conan! What is best in life?"), and extrapolated.

That said, I drew at least part of Iomedae's from the Marine Corps. I drew on Arabic history for Sarenrae. I drew Erastil's from my grandfather's hazy recollection of his pastoral boyhood, and what I imagined he would say about it filtered through his ideal conservative vision.

Like that.


Very Interesting, thanks for sharing.


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Set wrote:

Could a seventh evil faith sneak in there as well, say, the Old Cults? We've had some tantalizing Lovecraftian hints, but, other than Groetus, we don't really know what sort of things the 'Old Cultists' revere (or, propitiate, anyway).

The Old Cults will get there do in Wake of the Watcher.


TerrorTigr wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
And I suspect that a "Faiths of Corruption" type book would NOT be a poor seller, because folks love the evil, and more to the point, this would be one "Player's Companion" that GMs would, I suspect, pickup in DROVES if only for use with NPCs.
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I would be thrilled to see more information on my beloved Lamashtu.

And I will definitely be getting this tome along with "Faiths of Balance".


Colin McComb wrote:

For the most part, I used the faith itself as the inspiration for the paladin codes. Someone who follows Erastil, a god of homespun wisdom and small communities, is going to have a significantly different outlook on what is good than someone who follows Iomedae, the crusader and caller-to-adventure. For each faith, I asked the Conan Question ("Conan! What is best in life?"), and extrapolated.

That said, I drew at least part of Iomedae's from the Marine Corps. I drew on Arabic history for Sarenrae. I drew Erastil's from my grandfather's hazy recollection of his pastoral boyhood, and what I imagined he would say about it filtered through his ideal conservative vision.

Like that.

Just me, but I'd see a paladin of Erastil as being like the prototypical small-town sheriff, one of Sarenrae as being the cinematic Saladin, and Torag as being, what, a somewhat-romanticized version of some of the better steelworkers my father labored alongside.


Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Kvantum wrote:

Those articles are the GM's perspective on the gods, I suspect. This is a Player Companion, so it'll be the player-focused material.

Wouldn't surprise me at all to see a 256 page hardback compilation of the articles after they get all 20 of them published, though.

Correct. This book is "What does this belonging to religion do for my character, even if I'm not a divine spellcaster?" rather than "here's the outlook of the deity, its church, and its relation to other deities."

Think of it more as a "here's why your character should join this church!" rather than "thousands of years ago, this god blah blah blah."

Paladin codes for specific deities is a good thing to talk about in this book! :)

This is not a rehash of Gods and Magic and the AP articles. While it'll draw on the same material, the focus is different. I've explicitly told the author that he's not to regurgitate the text from the other sources. You'll see the inspiration there--the section on Cayden Cailean will mention he was an orphan, but it'll talk about how being an orphan of the church affects your character background and outlook, your attitude toward the church, and so on.

Ok, maybe not the place to bring this up, but its things like this that are making me migrate over to Pathfinder (from 4th ed.) I love that this book (and apparently the series of books)are going to be for Players (as suggested, imagine that!) and I have seen the Developer and Contributor jump on to answer questions about the book. So really, nice guys. Thanks... :)

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Cover image and description have been updated to reflect the finished product.

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Vic Wertz wrote:
Cover image and description have been updated to reflect the finished product.

Nice.

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Nice cover.


Not to complain overmuch, as I'm very much looking forward to this book, but ... haven't we seen that scene depicted a half dozen times already? Where's the Iomedae love? ;)

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Dance of Ruin wrote:
Where's the Iomedae love? ;)

In the alternate universe where the iconic cleric is a worshiper of Iomedae. You'll just have to deal with all the kick-butt clerics on book covers being kick-butt clerics of Sarenrae named Kyra.

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Dance of Ruin wrote:
Not to complain overmuch, as I'm very much looking forward to this book, but ... haven't we seen that scene depicted a half dozen times already? Where's the Iomedae love? ;)

Not quite. We've seen Sarenrae striking down Rovagug (on the cover of Gods and Magic, reprinted in the Gamemastery Guide if I recall correctly).

Now we see Kyra, a cleric of Sarenrae striking down a big, bug like thing, likely a monstrous servant of the Rough Beast. It's supposed to show how the God's struggle must be taken up by their mortal servants.

Or something like that.

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cappadocius wrote:
Dance of Ruin wrote:
Where's the Iomedae love? ;)
In the alternate universe where the iconic cleric is a worshiper of Iomedae. You'll just have to deal with all the kick-butt clerics on book covers being kick-butt clerics of Sarenrae named Kyra.

Or, alternatively, on any cover that features Seelah. See the cover of "Rule of Fear" for an example.

Shadow Lodge

I'd like to see non-divine spellcasting Iconics on books like Faiths of Purity with something that shows they have a connection to a deity(even if it's just a wooden holy symbol).

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Well, where's the love for the Mightiest Deity of them all -- Asmodeus? On which covers has His clergy appear on, hmmm?

I know why Sarenrae gets all the publicity; it's because she's bald like Sean "Balddude" Reynolds!

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Dragonborn3 wrote:
I'd like to see non-divine spellcasting Iconics on books like Faiths of Purity with something that shows they have a connection to a deity(even if it's just a wooden holy symbol).

That's inside the book. But on the cover, we need to reinforce "this is a book about characters with faith, and obviously clerics fit that category...."

If you put Valeros on the cover, you'd look at it and go, "huh? He's a fighter."

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Sean K Reynolds wrote:

That's inside the book. But on the cover, we need to reinforce "this is a book about characters with faith, and obviously clerics fit that category...."

If you put Valeros on the cover, you'd look at it and go, "huh? He's a fighter."

Which suggests that Lini would be a logical choice to see on the cover of Faiths of Balance, since she's our Iconic neutral divine caster.

It does leave who is going to appear on the cover of Faiths of Corruption up in the air. So far, the divine Iconics; Kyra, Lini, Seelah, Harsk, Alahazra and Imrijka, are good or neutral, as far as I recall.

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Set wrote:
It does leave who is going to appear on the cover of Faiths of Corruption up in the air.

Nualia. :)

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Asgetrion wrote:

Well, where's the love for the Mightiest Deity of them all -- Asmodeus? On which covers has His clergy appear on, hmmm?

I know why Sarenrae gets all the publicity; it's because she's bald like Sean "Balddude" Reynolds!

Actually, Sarenrae is far from bald. She's got a LOT of hair—it's just made of fire is all.

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Set wrote:


It does leave who is going to appear on the cover of Faiths of Corruption up in the air.

The messageboards are frequented by a priestess of Lamashtu and a stunningly handsome evangelist of Rovagug. I'm sure we could come to some agreement regarding the licensing of our images for a small donation to our respective churches.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:

Well, where's the love for the Mightiest Deity of them all -- Asmodeus? On which covers has His clergy appear on, hmmm?

I know why Sarenrae gets all the publicity; it's because she's bald like Sean "Balddude" Reynolds!

Actually, Sarenrae is far from bald. She's got a LOT of hair—it's just made of fire is all.

You dare to question me, Jacobs? Are you aware that I have maxed-out ranks in Knowledge (religion) and a whole pile of profane bonuses on top of that? If a Favored Son of Asmodeus says she's bald, then she *is* bald, right? Desperately begging for another nightly visit from my Imp Squad (TM), are you? ;P

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Asgetrion wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:

Well, where's the love for the Mightiest Deity of them all -- Asmodeus? On which covers has His clergy appear on, hmmm?

I know why Sarenrae gets all the publicity; it's because she's bald like Sean "Balddude" Reynolds!

Actually, Sarenrae is far from bald. She's got a LOT of hair—it's just made of fire is all.

You dare to question me, Jacobs? Are you aware that I have maxed-out ranks in Knowledge (religion) and a whole pile of profane bonuses on top of that? If a Favored Son of Asmodeus says she's bald, then she *is* bald, right? Desperately begging for another nightly visit from my Imp Squad (TM), are you? ;P

I'm just saying I've known Sarenrae for about 20 years longer than you.

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Dragonborn3 wrote:
Set wrote:
It does leave who is going to appear on the cover of Faiths of Corruption up in the air.
Nualia. :)

I had to look that up, having never played that adventure.

The cleric of Urgathoa

Spoiler:
Lady Andaisin
from Seven Days to the Grace has a nice visual, and would make an interesting counterpoint to Kyra on Faiths of Purity. Having her locked in mortal combat with Shadowcount Sial and his kyton companion could be funky. Evil fighting evil.

A cleric of Asmodeus also seems like a logical choice, but I don't have Council of Thieves, which likely has a few prominent examples.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:

Well, where's the love for the Mightiest Deity of them all -- Asmodeus? On which covers has His clergy appear on, hmmm?

I know why Sarenrae gets all the publicity; it's because she's bald like Sean "Balddude" Reynolds!

Actually, Sarenrae is far from bald. She's got a LOT of hair—it's just made of fire is all.

You dare to question me, Jacobs? Are you aware that I have maxed-out ranks in Knowledge (religion) and a whole pile of profane bonuses on top of that? If a Favored Son of Asmodeus says she's bald, then she *is* bald, right? Desperately begging for another nightly visit from my Imp Squad (TM), are you? ;P

I'm just saying I've known Sarenrae for about 20 years longer than you.

Oh, but am I not a dwarf, who has lived a century longer than you? And how many ranks do you have in Knowledge (religion), human? I care not about how many books you've published, or about your title; my copy of the Thrice-Blessed Asmodean Disciples says Sarenrae is bald, so she's bald. ;)

BTW, fantastic job on the Lost Cities, James; it's one of the best gaming supplements I've ever bought, and a textbook example of a guide to lost and ruined settlements. Bravo! :)

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Set wrote:
Dragonborn3 wrote:
Set wrote:
It does leave who is going to appear on the cover of Faiths of Corruption up in the air.
Nualia. :)

I had to look that up, having never played that adventure.

The cleric of Urgathoa ** spoiler omitted ** from Seven Days to the Grace has a nice visual, and would make an interesting counterpoint to Kyra on Faiths of Purity. Having her locked in mortal combat with Shadowcount Sial and his kyton companion could be funky. Evil fighting evil.

A cleric of Asmodeus also seems like a logical choice, but I don't have Council of Thieves, which likely has a few prominent examples.

Maybe I could pose for the cover, hey? Er, I promise I'll keep my robes on and refrain myself from dancing! And last time doesn't count -- I was provoked! ;P


Nice new cover but they already sold me on having stuff(info,spells, traits,etc.) on Desna and Shelyn.


I would greatly look forward to reading this book, as I boh GM and play. In fact my entire group is of the neutral persuasion and some will stray torwards the naughty side (obviously looking forward to June's supplement greatly, as well. Please consider for a fall or Winter release. After all, fair is fair: Good, Bad, and Ugly.

Also, GMs love customizing and fleshing out the NPCs beyond 'not just another Evil Cleric villian'!

As it turns out, most of us here at Paizo think it'd be really cool to see a "Faiths of Corruption" book as well.

Some folks like playing evil PCs. I'd like to periodically support that play style. Unlike epic rules or psionics, the rules for playing evil characters already exist. There's no actual barrier to play characters like this, apart from the psychological, so it's not like we'd be producing a book that only a subset of the customer base would be able to understand.

And I suspect that a "Faiths of Corruption" type book would NOT be a poor seller, because folks love the evil, and more to the point, this would be one "Player's Companion" that GMs would, I suspect, pickup in DROVES if only for use with NPCs.

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I actually am kinda stoked by the notion of Faiths of Corruption because it's easy to see why someone would choose to follow Shelyn or Cayden Cailean or Erastil, but it's harder (for me, anyway) to get into the mindset of a follower of Lamashtu or Urgathoa or Zon-Kuthon.

Granted, the evil gods of Golarion are, at least, more sensible than many. Playing Everquest, there were entire societies devoted towards worshipping dieties of hate or fear, which seemed pretty ridiculous.

Pain, like Zon-Kuthon, at least makes a shred of sense, since the real world is full of self-mortifying / flagellent religious and ascetic practices, and they might be considered 'extreme' or 'freaky,' but usually aren't condemned as evil. Loviatar's 'no pain, no gain, flense away your weakness and become stronger through trial' credo in the Realms at least made that seem less than totally crazy. :)

Most of the good and neutral dieties seem kind of intuitive to me, so Faiths of Corruption kinda has it's work cut out for it, to find a way to make it seem *sensible* to follow the tenets of Rovagug.

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A "Faiths of Corruption" book would be relatively experimental, in that books for evil characters are pretty rare. But I don't think it'd be a particularly poor seller—as mentioned above, there IS a lot of interest in the dark side of things. And even though most GMs won't allow evil PCs... ALL GMs would likely get a kick out of a book of new toys and tricks and powers for their NPCs...

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James Jacobs wrote:
A "Faiths of Corruption" book would be relatively experimental, in that books for evil characters are pretty rare. But I don't think it'd be a particularly poor seller—as mentioned above, there IS a lot of interest in the dark side of things. And even though most GMs won't allow evil PCs... ALL GMs would likely get a kick out of a book of new toys and tricks and powers for their NPCs...

Right.

One of the reasons why Libris Mortis and Book of Vile Darkness are two of my favorite 3.5e books - not because I ever let the players use that material, but because it'd gold for the GM.

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