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I understand the reason of a playtest, and I must apologize for not being able to contribute on this playtest. My main group recently decided to take a break from Pathfinder (we've been running it religiously since it came out, and 3.5 since before that), and we'd like to keep our new game running (probably until the release of this book). And I just joined another group that does not meet often enough to support the playtest's tight timeline.

That said, I would like to give 'armchair quarterback' feedback on the classes, from what little I've read (first few levels of each of them; did not dive into 'patrons' of Shaman, though - apologies).
I like them. I want to play just about all of them (some I'm just opposed to, because of the base class mechanics that are somewhat complicated to me).
Arcanist is the wizard-sorcerer that I think would make people in my group finally want to play a prepared-caster.
I'm not sure about Bloodrager (barbarian powers require more reading than I like to put into a hack-slash character), but it sounds very interesting.
Brawler is a nice mix and I'd love to see how it works out.
Investigator sounds really cool.
Slayer sounds really powerful and would be fun to play.
Swashbuckler is an amazing idea, and I would love to test that out, as well.

Second, I want to comment on something that may have already been addressed in previous comments (this thread is HUGE and I don't have enough time in the day to read it all - apologies, again):
In my honest opinion (based on past experience), this book will NOT be exclusively about Hybrid classes. My guess of this book would be something along the lines of the ARG, where classes are presented, archetypes presented, and then new ways to 'liven-up' classes will be presented. These Hybrid Classes are a part of that third section.

I really like what Paizo did, here, as it has inspired renewed interest in exploring different concepts, and I can't wait to see this book.

Side-line question that I do not expect an answer to (some things just have to be kept under wraps): any chance the new book will provide some alternatives to Sneak Attack for Rogue (call me crazy, but sometimes you just want a skill-monkey that doesn't have to worry about flanking/surprise)?

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I did a brief search for this in the forums and only spotted this mention. Apologies if I missed others or if it was intended as a definitive answer.

To the nitty-gritty.

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook, Fourth Printing, page 154, Dragonhide:
"If the dragonhide comes from a dragon that had immunity to an energy type, the armor is also immune to that energy type, although this does not confer any protection to the wearer."

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Ultimate Combat, First Printing, page 199. Dragonhide:
"If the dragonhide used to construct this armor comes from a dragon that had immunity to an energy type, the armor pieces also have immunity to that energy type, but only confer the immunity on the wearer if he is wearing a suit of armor made entirely of dragonhide from the same type of dragon."

Understanding that the latter is part of a new optional rule, I am curious if this 'improvement' was intended solely for that new optional rule.

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I musty apologize for not reading all the posts in this thread before posting myself. It is quite the thread, and I've but a single idea that's been with me for the past week about the class.
In my opinion, the class (features, etc) don't fully match the mental image of the class name. In pondering this, and noting that it is akin to a Favored Soul in how it is granted it's power, I would suggest something like "Blessed" for the class. I feel it fits fairly well, since the character is chosen by the gods to wield this power. Additionally, it works well with the provided Foci: Blessed of Battle, Blessed of Bones, Blessed of Fire, etc.
Reiterated apologies if stepping on toes.

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Vigil wrote:

Found it!

** spoiler **
PRD wrote:

Spell-Like Abilities: ...

Some creatures actually cast arcane spells as sorcerers do, using components when required. Some creatures have both spell-like abilities and actual spellcasting power.

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Sorry for the major cuts in the quote, but I wanted to highlight this little bit of text about Spell-likes.

From reading the description of the Ex and Sp abilities, I would say that the Arcane Bond is Ex in the case of a Familiar (as they 'break the rules of physics', but are not magical in effect) and that the Bonded Object would be a Sp ability, with the above highlighted restriction. The thought of what one could do with an unrestricted Sp for any spell in a Wizard's spellbook is frightening, and not just limited to Wishes. O_O