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And numarak Thx ;)

It's like 5 years Later but :P is there an Oportunity for Cleric to get the Invisibillity spell may with some unique domain spells ?

taks wrote:

Dokalfar wrote:

isn't this Spell Homebrewed ? we just use the Core spells, but i am sure there had been a lot of discussions about this Spell on the Boards.

It's in the melee tactics toolbox, IIRC. It's not core, but it is Paizo.

Of course, the Magus itself is not core either. Clearly any campaign that has a Magus in it must allow some amount of extra books.

Yeah Kurald that's right for me it was important that's not entirely Homebrewed, cause i didn't find it somewhere now i have my answer :P melee tactics n1

my GM was Irritated about how you could USE wands and RODS with my Teifling tail even when i get the Racial Archetype and the Prehensive Tail Feat !!

in his Eyes, i can take small items like potions an stuff, but not USE Wands and Rods (you couldn't use Weapons is written in the Description)

is there something i am missing ? cause in the most guides i found they Use the Teifling tail for Wands and Rods

I'm not seeing the difference. "That crit built" can use frostbite just fine.

Bladebound is one of the best archetypes though, and at low level I wouldn't recommend kensai.

oh okay, i thought that both alone would be very Feat intensive and together nearly impossible to combine

so you 2 would recommend not to take Fiend Flayer if not for an serious purpose like Style ?

Bladebound Frostbite Kensai
Or
Bladebound Kensai with that crit Built are then my 2 Favourite Iptions atm

(perhaps with out bladebound ... my GM does not allow much Archtypes and hasn'T answered yet).

Some Advice for that choices perhaps someone played both and has some Pros and Cons ?

The addition of the 1st level spell bladed tutor's spirit all but buried the dex-to-damage Magus, IMO. Worst case penalty with power attack is -1 through level 20, and it lasts 1 min/level. You can still up your dex a bit to take advantage of things like celestial plate, too. Bladebound is just such a cool archetype.

hm this strange not Core spell where you can reduce every penalty on hit with feats like Power attack ?

isn't this Spell Homebrewed ? we just use the Core spells, but i am sure there had been a lot of discussions about this Spell on the Boards.

Yes, tiefling is a good race. There's no problem taking fiend flayer as long as you don't use it.

And well, you can have a perfectly viable Magus without dex-to-damage. For example, you can create a flaming-shocking-frost weapon, the Bladebound archetype, spells like Frostbite to add to your damage, or even good ol' Weapon Specialization. It's not like the Magus has problems damaging things :)

At low level, kensai is not so good because it loses a lot (e.g. diminished spellcasting and no spell recall) and all its low-level abilities are easily duplicated by feats. The kensai's unique abilities don't come up until level 10 or so.

ok i see, i will have Dex 19 and Int 15 so i can boost AC a lil bit and also i would take the scaled skin racial alternate !

The Frostbite built could be very stable and Bladebound Archtype sound very strong, don't know if our GM allows it ^^

Dokalfar wrote:

I want to Play a Tiefling Fiend Flayer Magus Kensai with scimitar or Rapier and go for the slashing or fencing grace.

Well we will play an evil groupe adventure so i have chosen the Tiefling race and i think it's pretty n1... I am Reading that one of the best races (like often) is Human. And as you said When i take a iefling then Fiend Flayer has no negatives on his side. So the question would be Fiend Flayer or nothing ( and I don't want to play the Tiefling Tail build, strong for potions scrolls and wards, but bad for my style AND the GM told us it could be troublesome with the story).

One of my Probs is that i don't want to go for the (in my eyes) lame shocking crasp build... (yes it's strong but ... no choice for me)

I haven't gone through your guide intensivly and built my char on the guide from Frodo ... that both graces are not combinable anymore with spell combat ... ok thats really a problem, cause i hate the Dervish build ...

but it's good to know, that a one lvl dip in swashbuckler would also in your eyes be a solid choice !

so i have to rethink my Slashing grace idea and will read your Guide and then post perhaps again what i would do with my magus.

But one last question, You have low rated the first lvls of Kensai very hard (orange i guess). With the swashbuckler dip (one lvl) And my Dex/Int built i think Kensai is a very stable choice also in the first lvls but i think i am wrong (only WHY) ^^

i know it's mor then a year since someone posted something like this,
but i need some advice, and this Thread seems to be quit perfect for it.

I want to Play a Tiefling Fiend Flayer Magus Kensai with scimitar or Rapier and go for the slashing or fencing grace.

Frodos Guide is great an i will get alot of information there and can built up my own Style for this Kensai but there is one question i want to ask you:

I want to dip the first lvl (or lvls) into swashbuckler class.

My question here is: How Valuable is a 3lvl Dip (one lvl dip is out of question)

i mean you are getting your spells 2 lvls later and you would loose one Arcanepool Point for sure AND get the cool kensai-Magus Stuff 2 lvls later

but i thought of getting charmed life/3 (my charisma is only 12 atm but i think of getting it will raise to 14 and be increased with items later so this could be a nice thing later)

in addition you get nimble 1 .. (well +1 AC dodge is ok), but the much more valuable thing i am looking for are the lvl 3 Deeds where i must have at least one Panache point.

Keep Up and Menacing Swordplay are more situationale, but to get +2 initiative and +3 dmg on all rolls for an additional 2 lvl Dip seems not that Bad ... and i could have some Varieties for special situations to spend that panach point if i have to do it. (normal i just want to spare one)i will crit often so the chance to get that one Panachle point back is very high ^^

So What do you think is it worth a lvl 3 Dip or will i give up to much nice stuff from My Kensai magus in exchange ?

ah and i am getting the racial alternate scaled skin to be more stable.

and i am not sure about my Favourite class options +1/4 arcane points is at first sight just like .. ok ...

i know it's mor then a year since someone posted something like this,
but i need some advice, and this Thread seems to be quit perfect for it.

I want to Play a Tiefling Fiend Flayer Magus Kensai with scimitar or Rapier and go for the slashing or fencing grace.

Frodos Guide is great an i will get alot of information there and can built up my own Style for this Kensai but there is one question i want to ask you:

I want to dip the first lvl (or lvls) into swashbuckler class.

My question here is: How Valuable is a 3lvl Dip (one lvl dip is out of question)

i mean you are getting your spells 2 lvls later and you would loose one Arcanepool Point for sure AND get the cool kensai-Magus Stuff 2 lvls later

but i thought of getting charmed life/3 (my charisma is only 12 atm but i think of getting it will raise to 14 and be increased with items later so this could be a nice thing later)

in addition you get nimble 1 .. (well +1 AC dodge is ok), but the much more valuable thing i am looking for are the lvl 3 Deeds where i must have at least one Panache point.

Keep Up and Menacing Swordplay are more situationale, but to get +2 initiative and +3 dmg on all rolls for an additional 2 lvl Dip seems not that Bad ... and i could have some Varieties for special situations to spend that panach point if i have to do it. (normal i just want to spare one)i will crit often so the chance to get that one Panachle point back is very high ^^

So What do you think is it worth a lvl 3 Dip or will i give up to much nice stuff from My Kensai magus in exchange ?

ah and i am getting the racial alternate scaled skin to be more stable.

and i am not sure about my Favourite class options +1/4 arcane points is at first sight just like .. ok ...