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Can you clarify the scrolls that would be in the deck. Is it just a card that give the rules for using a scroll. Or are we to except scroll cards with the spell information on it? Seams like that would duplicate the spell decks and be a lot of cards.

I'm slightly confused by your value system. Why is a Large worth two smaller minis? Not all Smalls or Mediums are created equal. Most sets contain Small and Medium Rare miniatures, and those would be worth more in value than Uncommon Large or Uncommon Huge. Are you trying to break it down in value of the amount of surface area of the miniatures, paint needed to cover that surface area, and steps/time needed to paint that surface area?

I'm unsure where you are getting $40 a box? That would mean a case has an MSRP of $1,280.00.

I'm not really sure what it is you're trying to figure out. We already know the price increase is in large part due to the inclusion of Large and Huge minis, because both WizKids and Paizo has confirmed as much. So are you trying to determine the total amount by which the extra Large and Huge miniatures increase the set? Wouldn't the answer be to subtract the old price of a case w/Huge minis from the new Darkalnds Rising MSRP? That would give the total difference (roughly speaking). And then only by knowing how many more total Large miniature and total Huge miniatures are in the set, compared to Legendary Adventures, would we be able properly determine an average.

I fee like I might be missing the entire point of your post.

To answer your first question. Basically yes. I am ignoring resale value and trying to brake it down to a cost per mini.

The $40 is two boosters at MSRP, one with the 2 larges and 1 with the huge only way to come up with an average(assume equal number of the two box load outs). Here is my match $40/13=$3.08 for m/s X 2 = $6.16 for L X 2 = 12.30 for H.

What I am trying to do is compare the value to other systems. Like the unpainted line for example. You get 2 med figures for $5 right so they are $2.50 each. The large are 1 for $5 i think. And huge's are $15. (so guess that 3X as much as large not 2X lets redo the math)

With that in mind S/M are are about $2.67 each, L are 5.33, and H are 16.

So not bad (great really since they are painted), in the past they where actual just under the unpainted line since a case was discounted and got $30 on top of that. But since they are not doing that and what % off you get on the case you will most likely find on the unpainted as well (i am assuming), they are definitely making the bulk buy of the case less appealing.

But with other sites selling at lower pricing i will still pick this up because that will help get it closer to what i want to pay per mini. But if they keep going up i have to say i don't mind painting them myself and spreading out the purchases.

Hope that explains the point i was trying to make Pigraven. But i might just be weird with they way i look at it.

Daniel Gray 572 wrote:

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Daniel Gray 572 wrote:

I understand that a complete set is not guaranteed with a case but in 13 cases i have only not gotten a complete set once (i got two identical bricks somehow, not huge deal only was missing 3)

But I noticed in the project page thread that it has been reiterated sever time that a case does not guaranteed all models. (Me thinks she doth protest to much)

So my question is, does buying only ONE case of Darklands Rising guarantee you will NOT get a complete set. I know you cant guarantee you will get all, stuff happen in packaging: grab the wrong one, or in my case two identical bricks make it into same case. But i just want to make sure that it is still at least possible to get them all in one case.

My concern is that you say that some boosters will only have only one huge, or two large or i assume the standard 3 med/sm with one large. Which means a booster will now have 1, 2 or 4 figures.(am i interpreting the article right?) That means the case will now longer have 128 total minis? What does that mean with there still being 52 different minis. Will there be significantly less repeats.

This is not how Legendary Adventures was done so this is a new situation and that the new price point, I think we are all just hoping to not be disappointed. I was very happy with Legendary Adventure and think it was worth the shipping increase issue it caused so I am still planning to get this one.

Hey Daniel, i can answer one of your questions:

One single booster of Darklands Rising will ALWAYS contain 3 medium and/or small minis in addition to either ONE HUGE mini OR two large minis.
So it will either contain four or five minis now, which is a first.

I don't know if case will get you one of each mini, as there are supposedly 52 different minis in the set, but i believe it probably will, if you don't get 2 duplicate bricks accidently.

If you are living in the USA, nothing beats gamenerdz

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Thanks that clears things up a lot.

So what i have done in the past is said that large is worth twice as much as a small or mini.

So I guess if I keep that true today then a box with 2 m/s and 2 larges at msrp $19.99 would make the m/s cost $3.33 ea and the Larges cost $6.66 compared to the old $15.99 msrp where the m/s $3.20 and the Larges cost $3.40. So about a 4% increase in cost for the smalls and a 8% increase cost for Larges.

Not sure how to value a huge with exception of LA the have always been premiums before at around $25-$35. So lets say they are 2 time as much as a large. So a box 3 m/s and and 1 huge is would put the m/s at $2.85ea and the huge at 11.42ea. Not bade

But the best way to look at is is 1 box of each at $39.98. That puts the m/s at 3.08 the L at $61.15 and the H at $12.30. With this model the price of s/m/L have actual gone down the total burden for the price increase is on the huge which is still a great deal. This assumes there there is an equal number of the two booster layouts in a case. That would be a good thing to know.

If this does not do well might be better to go back to old system and start a second like with huges. like maybe a $100 for a box of 8 or 10. Might package better and reduce shipping cost around.

Daniel Gray 572 wrote:

I understand that a complete set is not guaranteed with a case but in 13 cases i have only not gotten a complete set once (i got two identical bricks somehow, not huge deal only was missing 3)

But I noticed in the project page thread that it has been reiterated sever time that a case does not guaranteed all models. (Me thinks she doth protest to much)

So my question is, does buying only ONE case of Darklands Rising guarantee you will NOT get a complete set. I know you cant guarantee you will get all, stuff happen in packaging: grab the wrong one, or in my case two identical bricks make it into same case. But i just want to make sure that it is still at least possible to get them all in one case.

My concern is that you say that some boosters will only have only one huge, or two large or i assume the standard 3 med/sm with one large. Which means a booster will now have 1, 2 or 4 figures.(am i interpreting the article right?) That means the case will now longer have 128 total minis? What does that mean with there still being 52 different minis. Will there be significantly less repeats.

This is not how Legendary Adventures was done so this is a new situation and that the new price point, I think we are all just hoping to not be disappointed. I was very happy with Legendary Adventure and think it was worth the shipping increase issue it caused so I am still planning to get this one.

Hey Daniel, i can answer one of your questions:

One single booster of Darklands Rising will ALWAYS contain 3 medium and/or small minis in addition to either ONE HUGE mini OR two large minis.
So it will either contain four or five minis now, which is a first.

I don't know if case will get you one of each mini, as there are supposedly 52 different minis in the set, but i believe it probably will, if you don't get 2 duplicate bricks accidently.

If you are living in the USA, nothing beats gamenerdz pricewise - i don't and get them from my FLGS but have to pay no shipping...

Thanks, I just got Dungeons Deep from gamenerdz, went smooth, they did charge the card like 10 days before it shipped that was a little odd but got it just the same. Do they charge preorders before they ship?

And wow more then 128 mini that is nice. And more large and huge ones as compared to LA. Sounds like we are getting more bang for our buck.

As for Paizo pricing, if it cheaper somewhere else then it is what it is. Don't hurt my feelings. Not there fault I live on the east cost. Besides they are a publisher not a retail store, I hope there feeling are not hurt if a buy them from a game store.

Daniel Gray 572 wrote:

I understand that a complete set is not guaranteed with a case but in 13 cases i have only not gotten a complete set once (i got two identical bricks somehow, not huge deal only was missing 3)

But I noticed in the project page thread that it has been reiterated sever time that a case does not guaranteed all models. (Me thinks she doth protest to much)

So my question is, does buying only ONE case of Darklands Rising guarantee you will NOT get a complete set. I know you cant guarantee you will get all, stuff happen in packaging: grab the wrong one, or in my case two identical bricks make it into same case. But i just want to make sure that it is still at least possible to get them all in one case.

My concern is that you say that some boosters will only have only one huge, or two large or i assume the standard 3 med/sm with one large. Which means a booster will now have 1, 2 or 4 figures.(am i interpreting the article right?) That means the case will now longer have 128 total minis? What does that mean with there still being 52 different minis. Will there be significantly less repeats.

This is not how Legendary Adventures was done so this is a new situation and that the new price point, I think we are all just hoping to not be disappointed. I was very happy with Legendary Adventure and think it was worth the shipping increase issue it caused so I am still planning to get this one.

It's: 3 small|medium + (2 large OR 1 huge)

this blog post wrote:

[...] in addition to the expected three Small or Medium figures that make up the bulk of the set, each Darklands Rising booster will contain either a Huge figure or two Large figures.

(emphasis mine)

And yeah, sadly I'm not sure Paizo has the profit margins to give free shipping or reduce these prices anymore. :(

OH so there will be boosters with 5 minis in it. 3 small/med and 2 large. So now there is more then 128 minis in a case.

Please cancel my Pathfinder Battles Subscription. Thanks

I understand that a complete set is not guaranteed with a case but in 13 cases i have only not gotten a complete set once (i got two identical bricks somehow, not huge deal only was missing 3)

But I noticed in the project page thread that it has been reiterated sever time that a case does not guaranteed all models. (Me thinks she doth protest to much)

So my question is, does buying only ONE case of Darklands Rising guarantee you will NOT get a complete set. I know you cant guarantee you will get all, stuff happen in packaging: grab the wrong one, or in my case two identical bricks make it into same case. But i just want to make sure that it is still at least possible to get them all in one case.

My concern is that you say that some boosters will only have only one huge, or two large or i assume the standard 3 med/sm with one large. Which means a booster will now have 1, 2 or 4 figures.(am i interpreting the article right?) That means the case will now longer have 128 total minis? What does that mean with there still being 52 different minis. Will there be significantly less repeats.

This is not how Legendary Adventures was done so this is a new situation and that the new price point, I think we are all just hoping to not be disappointed. I was very happy with Legendary Adventure and think it was worth the shipping increase issue it caused so I am still planning to get this one.

Daniel Gray 572 wrote:

Jeff Alvarez wrote:

The details on the Darklands Rising set are now finalized and so is the pricing. For those of you that aren't aware, the increase in MSRP on this set is due to the booster configuration changing from Standard Boosters to Huge Boosters. This change allows us to reintroduce Huge-sized figures to the cases, but also increases their price.

The MSRPs are listed above and subscribers will receive a 30% discount, displayed in the My Subscriptions section of each subscriber's account.

And for those new to the product line, I'll reiterate that while we hope that every case includes one of every figure, this is not a guarantee.

So i am confused. in the past pazio always had the MSRP/Pazio Price/Subscription discount.

Right now you are only showing 30% off the MSRP. So is there no Pazio price anymore? Or have you not determined what that price would be.

Can you please confirm the final price for Subscriptions? Right now it is showing $447.78 plus shipping. Please let me know ASAP if this is correct as I will need to cancel my subscription and do a preorder somewhere else.

Seems like in the past we have always had issued with getting the correct price so i am hopeing that is what it is now.

Yes, the $447.78 price is the correct subscriber price.

Thanks for the quick conformation. Sadly that means the subscription is no long the best value for me at least at current shipping pricing. How does one go about canceling there subscription. I don't see anything on the manage my subscription page.

The details on the Darklands Rising set are now finalized and so is the pricing. For those of you that aren't aware, the increase in MSRP on this set is due to the booster configuration changing from Standard Boosters to Huge Boosters. This change allows us to reintroduce Huge-sized figures to the cases, but also increases their price.

The MSRPs are listed above and subscribers will receive a 30% discount, displayed in the My Subscriptions section of each subscriber's account.

And for those new to the product line, I'll reiterate that while we hope that every case includes one of every figure, this is not a guarantee.

So i am confused. in the past pazio always had the MSRP/Pazio Price/Subscription discount.

Right now you are only showing 30% off the MSRP. So is there no Pazio price anymore? Or have you not determined what that price would be.

Can you please confirm the final price for Subscriptions? Right now it is showing $447.78 plus shipping. Please let me know ASAP if this is correct as I will need to cancel my subscription and do a preorder somewhere else.

Seems like in the past we have always had issued with getting the correct price so i am hopeing that is what it is now.

On another note, this is a problem that has been happening since always and it is keeping subscribers away like crazy, because no one wants their credit card to be debited.
Time to finally fix this once & for all, Paizo.

I agree, this is getting old.

On a side know I am planing to get the 2 premium sets. But being that they are $79.78. I plan to just do a second order with $20+ of stuff to get another $10 off of shipping. Seams worth it to me since it ships separately anyways and Pazio sells more win/win. I was going to wait until they where no longer on pre-order to make sure they don't ship the available item separate from the pre-order ones.

New to the site so sorry if I am in the wrong spot. But I was wondering if the outdoor map packs match astatically. Basically are the shades of green grass the same (baring the typical print run difference). I am trying to do an outdoor adventure and was thinking of expanding my map collection. I have forest trails and I was wonder what I can use with it as there are very few clearings in it. I understand that combining it with other map packs will create for some odd straight and 90 deg tree lines but hey there is a fine line between functionality as a modular map and astatic.

So obviously the Forest Dangers goes with the forest trails but what about all the other ones do they match up good color wise: Evil Ruins, River System, Camps and Shelters (for the applicable sites), Road System, Brides, Ruined Village.

Have not seen any YouTube videos where people lay out the different sets to show how they could be used together. Hint Hint for you guys who know how to do that.

Quest ideas that could have favorable circumstances for a Druid could be...
-A very powerful Bear/Tiger killing people in a small village. Most people would sooner hunt the animal down but a Druid can offer better solutions.
-A long trek through the wilds offers a Druid a chance to be very useful when the party is in danger of dehydration and dying of thirst with Create Water. Same with starvation by way of the Purify Food and Drink orison or Goodberry 1st level spell.

Thanks for the ideas. And you gave me a thought. Wild animal turns out to be another druid who has been pushed to the edge of becoming an eco terrorist. Does the PC defeat the druid, join him, or reason with him. How do the rest of the group react. Yes the wheels are turning. I hope this can captivate him and show him what RPGs are about. Like to keep this group going.

Also i showed him the spell list and hope he will do some planing on his end. The warp wood spell would have been perfect.

New GM here. I have about 4 sections under my belt now. Last night I GM the start of a homemade campaign with a new group. It went well and for the first time I think this group of players will stick together. Everyone had a lot of fun. But there is one small problem. I had a druid in the group and at several points he flips through his sheet and be like I got nothing that will help here. One time it was in reference to a locked door. I think I did a good job making the cleric, rouge and sorceress shine and feel important but failed with the druid. Part of the problem is I need to read up on the druid as this is the first time I had one.

But I was wondering if I could get some advice on how to create an adventure that would play to the druid. I am thinking of an over grown ruined city or something. Not caves, fortresses and temples like I did in the first session. But what kind of encounter can I create that makes the druid the star.