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Are we still waiting for the event schedule?

new human trait: Giant Ancestry gives you a raw +1 CMB and CMD -2 stealth and losing skilled.

Now have him mount it ... and be teh awezome ..

lawl

*blows dust off pile of books*

Indeed, the text for the mount class feature is limited, and also applies to the benefits granted with the class feature:

A cavalier does not take an armor check penalty on
Ride checks while riding his mount. The mount is always
considered combat trained and begins play with Light
Armor Proficiency as a bonus feat. A cavalier’s mount
does not gain the share spells special ability.

blah blah.

I think the misconception is that we confuse the STARTING animal with what can be gained in the future. Again, like the druid, bound to a specific animal, but should be alotted by the handle animal skill

PFC guide version 2.2 page 19

What kind of tricks can I teach to an animal using
Handle Animal? You can teach any animal a trick so
long as you follow the rules for Handle Animal on pages
97–98 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook. For the unique
purposes of Pathfinder Society, you may attempt to train
one animal to do one trick per scenario. A GM must
observe your roll—failing this roll means you have to wait
until the next scenario to try again. If you succeed on this
roll, you must note that your animal gained a trick on your
“Conditions Gained” section of that scenario’s chronicle.
This does mean you cannot train an animal until after
you’ve completed your first scenario (some classes’ animal
companions have exceptions to this rule).

Do purchased animals come fully trained or do I have
to train them myself ? The entry for Handle Animal in the
Skills chapter of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook details
which animals come trained—namely, some riding horses
and riding dogs have training and they only come trained
to bear a rider into combat. All other animals are subject to
Handle Animal to learn additional tricks. See the “Mounts
and Related Gear” table on page 159 of the Pathfinder RPG
Core Rulebook for additional details.

Sorry for the quotes,

but according to this I read that I can train any animal limited to my handle animal skill (rules apply), and it specifically mentions ranger and druid, Im confident that the animal companion can stretch beyond the given wolf, camel, raptor, etc, to something more vicious ... dire elephant ? :>

Eh, meaning that the rules apply to the mount, animal companion, etc.

This is how I would rule it, but again, this is far far far from level 1 camel horse option.

Mount rules apply, mounts have to be 1 size category larger then the PC. Medium dwarf equals large size boar, bestiary would say, Dire Boar; HD, plenty.

Bump yo charisma cause you need it here... lol

I guess all I have to say is I commend you for going out and running games. Here in central nebraska we have a very large gaming group in which we throw down 3-4 tables a given saturday, and many people, just do not want to GM.

So, kudos, and happy gaming.

RtrnofdMax wrote:

At first level, I will have a +5 Handle Animal. I assume you are asking for my take 10 and if it's sufficient for a Dire Boar? I don't have my bestiary on hand.

You could buy and train a dire boar if it's available for purchase as a mount in the core rulebook or the adventurer's armoury (not sure if it is--don't have either on hand right now), but it would just be a dire boar pet that you were riding. You couldn't use it as your special cavalier mount because medium cavaliers are only allowed a horse or a camel for their special mount. Assuming you did decide to ride the trained dire boar instead, you'd be giving up all of the mount bumps and abilities to do so. I don't think it's really a good tradeoff. In a home campaign it would totally work, but in PFS, where you're only allowed one combat animal with you, it would keep you from using the coolest benefit of the cavalier class--the mount who's smarter than some barbarians.

Right, so you cant have the cavalier mount class feature pet, and the combat animal dire boar.

Have to give up the mount feature.

BUT, much like druid or ranger, you get a starting option for the pet (cavaliers camel or horse), but Im sure you can dismiss the pet down the road for another type of mount (cavalier on dragon, yes please).

I believe the general rule (at least in 3.5e) was your pet cant exceed your HD, not sure if thats the case in pathfinder (rule check).

So basically, you just scratch the mount class feature, cause you spent the time (alot of it, along with money) to train the animal.

Again, something I doubt at first level, DC's would be somewhere in the 30s

Hmmm,

Ok sorry for the 4e plug, but I think D&D 4e DMG's do a good job with listing the 'types' of people that a GM could encounter in game.

For backgrounds, Id limit him to his trait choices, or close to, after all that's why Pathfinder gave them to us, not just for neat-o abilities.

If it was a nuts background story, Id offer a sarcastic response to why his character further jacked up his life and is now gang-pressed (shang-hai'ed) into the faction and must submit to higher officials. No matter how much someone flavors their story, they are still limited to their faction standing, reknown, and level.

A simple 'dude, you are level 1' and your faction leader owns your soul.' (go cheliax!)

Or, drop a book and say, 'show me where you can do that'. This ends the argument almost instantly.

There's a good/bad GM approach to someone who chats too much.

The delay idea is good, other players will be as frustrated as you will be. On a funny, note, Ive seen GM's pull out their handheld or even a novel.

If you are in a convention, there are more then likely time slots. Unfortunately, if you don't make the time, eh, no end. Ive seen GMs just say 'you failed' or 'game called', and a small amount of reward was met. An unfortunate end to someone who jacks up your table. So a reminder to keep the chat minimal and frequently remind them of the alotted time for the game.

Ok ...

Here is how I would rule it in a campaign ..

Does the character have the adequate handle animal skill to train a boar of size (and hit dice) ?

Edit: it would have to be a large size boar (dire boar?) If not, Id do the below to train a pet boar as character fluff, and mount a horse (or camel based on faction/area) and ease into the dire boar mount when level/skill is sufficient.

Does the character train the animal in a given week (much like a profession/craft check at the end of the module) to teach the animal a new trick, or spent that time to train the animal for mount?

I think that going this route, meets the animal (pet) companion in the rules (limited to 1 I think?).

Meaning he would have to purchase (rule check?) train and doesnt count towards the 'free' animal companion mount for the cavalier class skill.

This follows the rules for any character that wants a mount (flying griffon??) ...

Um however, best bet would be druid, my girlfriend can mount a roc!!!

Anyways, my opinion, and believe its fair to rules and the campaign