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One of the problems with the throwing rules in general are that they give no weight guidelines. Everything is based on bulk, but not mass, and so it's both wide open in what is possible, but also restrictive in effect.

The heaviest weapon in the game is the double crossbow (18 lb), followed by the orc and dwarf double weapons (15 lb). What happens if I want to throw a 50 lb rock? What if my 20 Strength makes lifting 100 lb rocks well under my light load and I want to throw one of those at someone?

Sure, there is the hurling powers for barbarians to use as guidelines, but even then it goes off of size, rather than weight. The Improvised Weapon Mastery even confuses things more by caping damage at 2d6.

It would be great if there was a unified throwing mechanic to tie all of the disparate rules into one coherent system, and showed how things scaled from the human level of realism, all the way up to the demi-god status of 20th level, when martial characters could well have strength scores in the 40's or 50's. What happens when you have a 40 strength and want to pick up a tree or boulder and throw it at someone?

Not that this has anything to do with pathfinder but in the old dnd 3.5 book complete warrior there were rules on doing dammage with improvised weapons with weight hopefully pathfinders new book(Ultimate combat) or maybe another later book will have something like this or similar to help people out with thrown weapons.

No, thrown weapons are not considered melee attacks. They're considered thrown weapons.

From the CRB

Thrown Weapons: Daggers, clubs, shortspears, spears,
darts, javelins, throwing axes, light hammers, tridents,
shuriken, and nets are thrown weapons. The wielder
applies his Strength modifier to damage dealt by thrown
weapons (except for splash weapons). It is possible to throw
a weapon that isn’t designed to be thrown (that is, a melee
weapon that doesn’t have a numeric entry in the Range
column on Table 6–4), and a character who does so takes
a –4 penalty on the attack roll. Throwing a light or onehanded
weapon is a standard action, while throwing a twohanded
weapon is a full-round action. Regardless of the
type of weapon, such an attack scores a threat only on a
natural roll of 20 and deals double damage on a critical hit.
Such a weapon has a range increment of 10 feet.

The Throw Anything feat simply removes the penalty for improvised thrown weapons.

That is why I was Confused because in the beginning of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook in the Equipment section it states that "Melee weapons are used for making melee attacks, though some of them can be thrown as well. Ranged weapons are thrown weapons or projectile weapons that are not effective in melee." which is confusing because is a thrown weapon a melee weapon, a ranged weapon, both or something in its own group.

Cheddahbob wrote:

Morris Chan wrote:

i would be able to throw shortswords or what ever and do a 1d6+2 damage if i have a strength of 14? with a range incriment of 10 feet?

Actually you would only do 1d6 points of dammage because throwing a weapon is a ranged attack, which does not add your strength to your dammage, Like wise you would add your dexterity roll to the attack roll and not your strength.

Uh, what makes you think you don't add your strength to damage with thrown weapons?

Never mind apparently thrown weapons are considered melee attacks in pathfinder, which makes them able to add the strength bonus to the dammage role, I was confused about something else I read in the core rulebook sorry.

i would be able to throw shortswords or what ever and do a 1d6+2 damage if i have a strength of 14? with a range incriment of 10 feet?

Actually you would only do 1d6 points of dammage because throwing a weapon is a ranged attack, which does not add your strength to your dammage, Like wise you would add your dexterity roll to the attack roll and not your strength.

Yeah in this pathfinder game this guy is running i am a half giant barbarian 5, blood storm blade 1, and what the blood storm blade prestige class from the book of nine swords(not a pathfinder book but compatible) gives you the Throw Anything feat at first level and a reposition attack ability that allows your weapon or whatever your throwing to come back to your hand. So anyway my character has a +1 Large Flaming Shocking Great Sword and I Threw this Weapon and did a Grand total of 48 dammage with it because I got a crit. Whats Even better is that in the second level of the prestige class I'm allowed to use my strength for my attack roll with a thrown weapon and can apply 1 and 1/2 my strength to the dammage with it as if it were a two handed weapon.