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Broken Crown wrote:

For clarity, the text says basic save to avoid the additional effects from the spell. The spell stat block does not list the Save as a Basic one though only "Reflex" (other spells do list "Basic Save X" in their block.) Can this be confirmed one way or the other?

I assume this is partially because the entire effect of the save is not "basic", as it has additional effects tied to failure. The text for the spell explains it in full.

I understand what you're saying but if that's the case why wouldn't Sound Burst be listed the same?

As it stands Sound Burst has a block similar to Tempest Surge but without using the word "Basic". I would say that critically failing against Tempest Surge does not have any additional effect from regular failure.

Drain life has similar wording in it's text of listing damage before the use of "Basic Save" in the text, however "Basic Save" is also listed in the Saving Throw portion unlike Tempest Surge

For clarity, the text says basic save to avoid the additional effects from the spell. The spell stat block does not list the Save as a Basic one though only "Reflex" (other spells do list "Basic Save X" in their block.) Can this be confirmed one way or the other?

Broken Crown wrote:

I like this idea, however I would tweak it so that it only stacks with similar casting types. So Divine casting capability would stack only with Divine classes.

But you can argue for it applying to all caster classes. Spellcraft works regardless of the caster classes involved, so the basics are the same between divine and arcane casting. (Knowlege (Arcana) and Knowledge (Religion) cover the specifics of the appropriate type or casting.)

You could also make mixing the types be a bonus. Either with a feat, or as something a god of magic can grant to his cleric/wizard followers (or as a benefit of the Magic domain).

Of course, I'm not saying that Feats and other options wouldn't allow you to "cross class" so to speak. Just as a base rule keep them separate.

I like this idea, however I would tweak it so that it only stacks with similar casting types. So Divine casting capability would stack only with Divine classes.

I would greatly be interested in playtesting! I can't get enough of either of RotRL or Skull/Shackles!