I am playing a gold dwarf binder in a Forgotten Realms campaign. LOVE IT!! One of the most unigue, flavorful, and well-balanced classes that I've seen in years.
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(Though, it is worth noting that I've also seen an inexperienced player behind the wheels of a bard being about as effective as a chicken with its head cut off. But really, the same can be said of any class. I've seen an ARTIFICER look like a chicken with its head cut off too. I measure whether a class is good or not by what a competent person can do with it) Amen, brother werecorpse! LOL still!
Scratch, scratch, scratch...
Names are names. People get all mad about the name of a thing. However, I understand why 3.75 became a title "unofficially". Pathfinder seemed more of a campaign name like Forgotten Realms or Eberron. 4e D&D is a totally different system than previous editions. Was 3e broken? Did 3.5 fix it? Mostly. Paizo's new spin-off builds on the existing system(3.5) by fixing and tweaking it. Is it the best yet. We will see. But the horizon looks hopeful.
Your opionios are god-like in my eyes!
Really? You must not live in the south. :)
Jester, you should not be so nervous. That was by far one of the better said statements of the month.
BLESS YOU CHILD!
Yeah Eric! Bring on the horns!
I frickin' LOVE PANDAS! OOMMGG!! Can we, can we, can we pppllleeeaaassseee have a panda monk! Give me a break. I promise we will all go watch the movie and think of david fryer! 
maybe we should add Smurf as a player race. Derro eat smurf.
Thanks guys. Derro go crawl to my corner.
awp832,I agree with you. Sorry I wasn't there to discount the meager opions of those that discounted you. However, my solution is simple as pie. ATTACK the idiot casting the spell with said invisible creatures over and over and over. Let a handful of detect magic casting wizards made by him die repeatedly. Then inform the party that you are not allowing detect magic to circumvent illusions since their essence is to trick and befuddle the mind. When the group moans and complains about this new house rule, look over at the guy in your group who thinks he's harry potter (we all have one). One good grim look from the DM should let him know that this new rule will save him from making a new character.
What the hell kind of campaign are you guys playing where you grab and pin weasels? Got an opening?
in response to Samuli YEAH!!! Like a Judo or Aikido version of the reaping mauler prestige class. Samuli, you are onto something big. I can smell it from here. It smells like napalmed DM. Love it baby!
CMB is the one thing that I am taking straight to my game without any adjustments. Though our group didn't like the pathfinder races and classes at all, everyone was strongly in favour of CMB. Your group doesn't like pathfinder's races or classes at all? What, the +2 to any attribute for humans and half-elves too vastly overpowered? OK, I'll concede that I believe half-orcs seem a little weird with a +2 to Wisdom. However, the class changes were awesome. Unless you prefer havinf 19 dead levels to sorcerer.
Would that be an 11?
Why is there no rules for simpling crawling away?
I agree with both sides. I think that Ray of Enfeeblement is broken but I can see how it would be suboptimal if a save was made in addition to range touch to avoid the effect. I think adding a save for 1/2 effect would be a good compromise. Couldn't agree with you more sciencephile. save for 1/2.
Oh come on Eric. There is nothing cooler than a levitating shield whizzing about deflecting blows from thine enemies! Tally ho! If you don't like them, get rid of them in your game. Don't expect Pathfinder to remove them.
I think the appropriate place to talk about ENWorld policies would be over there, not here. I agree Gary. Oh yeah, sorry about that comment earlier about everybody that plays 4e is a d$@@$@%. It was a little harsh.
PAIZO, you can do it! 
I eat smurfs!
One other thing: Anyone out there ever invite someone to your gaming table only to realize he or she lacked the patience and /or intellect to play D&D?
I just got done reading all the posts so far. Most everyone has made some interesting arguements. I am an old school gamer who has played every editions as well as D&D's predecessor, Chainmail. I have ventured into other RPGs such as Rifts, Star Wars, Twilight 2000, Gamma World, Battletech, and many more. However, I have always found my way back to D&D. I always liked the system and setting better than every other game. I walked away from all these experiences with one thing in my mind. RPGs are about the fun you have with your friends. That said , a perfectly good game can be destroyed by the wrong people. However, without the right game, the best of friends get bored with each other's company. Every system is imperfect. They all have there faults. However, D&D has been tried and tested more than any other system out there. As complicated as it is, the rule system covers more aspects of combat than any other game out there. The most difficult thing as a DM has always been integrating new players in with a more experienced group. When I heard D&D was make a system with a less difficult rule structure that still handled everything but with a less steep learning curve, I was excited. However, when I read about Wizards plans for everyone to destroy their campaigns to pave the way for their new edition. the excitement waned. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind fresh starts or wiping the slate clean. Yet this was a new angle NEVER preached before by TSR or Wizards. All earlier editions just updated, elaborated or corrected the game. Existing characters that my players had grown to love over the years only needed revising. Planetary genocide had never before been asked of DMs. Not to mention the fact that 3rd edition appeared after years of Advanced Dungeon and Dragons 2nd edition being in print without new rule releases. 4th edition asked that everyone destroy their campaigns and all characters in existence as well as get rid of every book that Wizards released only MONTHS before. What fool at Wizards thought that had a chance in hell of going over well? I don't think that I need to remind anyone with the patience to read this long-winded post that these books are not cheap. The reason I buy them is because I love the game and I will use the material within for YEARS. I have to agree that the merchandising end of Wizards has gotten ahead of the love of the game. I do not need a lesson from anyone on business or marketing. I understand the need for a business to continue to make money every quarter. I do not believe that Wizards has made the right decision in completely dismantling a tried and true platform of rules, and asking their fans to toss every character, campaign world, and book in the trash so that they can re-market a whole new set of rules that is in a completely opposite direction of every previous edition. By the way, Pathfinder is fantastic. I have read through your Alpha release rules set as diligently as I have read 4E new core books. Your amendments are beautifully constructed and well thought out. I could not have restuctured the core classes better. Oh, and by the way, thanks for not telling me to go sell or burn all my old characters and books in order to play Pathfinder. I can't wait to see how poorly 4E does. Serves them right!
oh yeah, lost my train of thought last thread, if you all were not out there making good use of the 3.5 rules then my $7000 worth of books would of eventually made great firewood according to Wizards.
I've been gaming for 22 years. I've trudged through basic D&D, advanced D&D, 3.0& 3.5 editions. I was very happy with MOST of the game. I've adapted over the years to the constant adaptions to existinfg rule structures. I've looked over the Alpha release rules and I really like how you gentlemen at Paizo have tweaked the rules. I think I'll actually be able to get a player to play a sorcerer for more than two levels. I have purchased all of the available Pathfinder adventure path in print. I have also pre-ordered the rest of the second path. FANTASTIC JOB!!! I was amazed at the quality of the adventure in appearance, originality and playability. I must say if you guys were not out there willing to continue to produce material set up for "3.75" rules. I have read all the material for 4th edition. I'm not impressed at all. Your improvements over yesteryear's rule structure is far better than Wizard's. |