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Eh dont care anymore... Still unhappy bout the change an I will continue to be... But the chicken nugget lady helped me calm down :) so I'm probably not comming back to this post as it will just upset me again... Have nice night all :)


TriOmegaZero wrote:

Actually, the race was illegal up until the start of Season 3 or 4. It's only going back to the original Season 0-2/3 rules with the restriction to require a boon.

I should know, I had an aasimar boon before it was opened up for everyone.

But the race became legal... Where crafting has not


graywulfe wrote:

@Baxcel

So as long as you get what you want, that is all that matters?

Why would any company care what you think of them, especially a company that "knows" you illegally download their books?

Since when is it a good idea to announce intent to commit a crime on a public forum?

Just to be clear, the crime in question is illegal downloads, "the only reason we bought the books was for society play.. for a homegame were perfectly fine downloading a copy or looking up the information online." Your grammar is atrocious, but the words still say the same thing. You have in the past downloaded books you did not pay for and intend to do so again. Just, Wow.

For the record, I guarantee Paizo employees are reading this thread, and your comments, as well as the comments of others, are being discussed. I just don't think the conversation is going the way you think it is, or the way you would want it to, at all.

Step off the dam high horse... Piazo stole there entire game from DnD..


TOZ wrote:
Baxcel wrote:

Let's see going down the list... I always play the lower levels there some of the funniest ones I've been in

Never changed my chr sence its my mistake if I've done something wrong...

There's no point in lieing about a roll.. The rolls are there in front of everyone an the entire game is rolls why lie?

Missing the forest because of the trees.

No I'm not missing the point...there's a different between doing something that is cheating to ruin the game an playing some things that's been in the game sence I started...

An if it was something small like the one gold for arrow bundle I wouldn't care if he was netting 10000+ gold I'd question it... But as before crafting has always been illegal... The race has not


Blazej wrote:
Baxcel wrote:
Not trying to be above the rest of you I'm trying to enjoy the game an have fun... The only race I personally enjoy is Aasimars I've looked every other race none fit well for me except them... I follow the rules but this is one I can't an won't follow... If people wanna use Trifling an Aasimars that's fine with me... If they dont OK... But dont ruin my games an my fun by removing the only option I see use able for me currently

I'm sure the person who fakes a bunch of chronicles would think the same thing. "I'm making my character completely legally with all the books I own. They aren't anymore powerful than normal. I don't have fun playing low level characters so I just skip to the higher, more interesting levels. Having to play though first through third level just ruins the fun for me."

I'm sure the person who rebuilds their character's build without any cost thinks the same thing. "I'm not an good optimizer, I tried something but it isn't working out. But it would be unfair for me to have to spend prestige fixing on a mistake that an experienced player would have warned me against. That makes it feel like I'm being punished as I learn the game, and that just ruins the fun for me.

I'm sure the person who lies about their rolls think the same thing. "I don't do it all the time, but sometimes when my characters fail at stuff that they are suppose to be good at, it just ruins the fun for me. Besides I don't get any of the convention boons for my characters, this is just my way of balancing that loss out."

Why is your fun more important than any of those conveniently made up players for this example? Just because you think your form of cheating isn't bad, that doesn't mean other players will see it the same way you do. Please don't consider cheating, because, to be honest, it isn't fun no matter what reason you do it and it might not just get you kicked out of Society, but excluded from all the games the players in it are involved as they may not see your form of...

Let's see going down the list... I always play the lower levels there some of the funniest ones I've been in

Never changed my chr sence its my mistake if I've done something wrong...

There's no point in lieing about a roll.. The rolls are there in front of everyone an the entire game is rolls why lie?

An if they dont like me playing the chr they helped me find an make.. Because they introduced me to the game as an Aasimars they know all my chr are of that race.. If they honestly won't let me play those chr when I have this entire time... Then there not really friends now are they?


Abyssian wrote:

Well, Baxcel, I don't know what to tell you. Mike and John are not going to read your thread and change their minds. (I would gamble 1,000 to 1 on that, by the way)

If you absolutely cannot abide the rules, maybe it's time to look for a home game. My time in this thread is over. Tschüß!

I honestly know they won't read this an I dont care... Mostly just venting at this point an I thank you for talking with me... Have a good one dude


Abyssian wrote:
Baxcel wrote:
Abyssian wrote:
Baxcel wrote:
Not trying to be above the rest of you I'm trying to enjoy the game an have fun... The only race I personally enjoy is Aasimars I've looked every other race none fit well for me except them... I follow the rules but this is one I can't an won't follow... If people wanna use Trifling an Aasimars that's fine with me... If they dont OK... But dont ruin my games an my fun by removing the only option I see use able for me currently

My advice is to play all of your registered characters as high as you can and then look back to see if maybe there is a concept that you could play that isn't an aasimar.

wait, you don't have any registered characters, do you?

I have a society number... None my chr information is online currently...
Well, that's really all you need. I really do recommend playing the characters you have as far as you can (you should be able to hit about 18th level with a couple of them if you don't mind GMing a little) before hating the campaign and its rules.

I have not GMed nor do I feel I can currently... So the highest I can get my chr in society play is 12 or 13... That's the highest they play at my game shop... Meaning my chr will be done an retired fast way before 2 years... An that's assuming they rerelease A/T in that time


Abyssian wrote:
Baxcel wrote:
Not trying to be above the rest of you I'm trying to enjoy the game an have fun... The only race I personally enjoy is Aasimars I've looked every other race none fit well for me except them... I follow the rules but this is one I can't an won't follow... If people wanna use Trifling an Aasimars that's fine with me... If they dont OK... But dont ruin my games an my fun by removing the only option I see use able for me currently

My advice is to play all of your registered characters as high as you can and then look back to see if maybe there is a concept that you could play that isn't an aasimar.

wait, you don't have any registered characters, do you?

I have a society number... None my chr information is online currently...


SCPRedMage wrote:
The Fox wrote:
Wait, what? Your VC knows you intend to cheat and he is cool with that?

I highly doubt it; more likely his VC said he would look for boons without cheating being mentioned.

Baxcel, please don't be That Guy; yes, I understand you want to play these races, yes, I agree that it sucks for you that they're getting the axe, but you're not so special that the rules don't apply to you. The rest of us are abiding by the rules, even if we don't like them, so don't act like you're above the rest of us.

Not trying to be above the rest of you I'm trying to enjoy the game an have fun... The only race I personally enjoy is Aasimars I've looked every other race none fit well for me except them... I follow the rules but this is one I can't an won't follow... If people wanna use Trifling an Aasimars that's fine with me... If they dont OK... But dont ruin my games an my fun by removing the only option I see use able for me currently


LazarX wrote:
Blazej wrote:

When Compton mentioned in the blog about people trying power running and making 10 characters before the rule change I thought that was a bit ridiculous. "Who would get so married to a race to make it so that every character option they play has be that race?"

I take it you missed the poster upthread who said that Aasimar characters are the only ones he's ever played. (presumably he did not start PFS until they became freely available), and when the option to make new ones is gone, he's done when he finishes playing his current stable.

Fact is the SLA's now counting for all sorts of pre-reqs that they would not have been considered a couple of years ago, has made planetouched the new munchkin toy. And some of them are pouting in the corner now.

I made no such notion that I would be quitting. The current plan is stocking up even if that means lieing about my played games to have my Aasimars already have the 1exp... An if those run out be it legit or cheated haven't decided yet... I'm going to play them anyways... An if that's not going work my venture captain has said he would look for me some boons for them


John Compton wrote:
As it seems relevant to this thread, see my response to some of the concerns raised here in the referenced blog's discussion thread.

thanks for your post youve shown me that those that make the rules within the society play dont actually care about the players as they are... if the only reason you didnt ban the races was because you didnt wanna effect the sales of your extra books well you failed that... the only reason we bought the books was for society play.. for a homegame were perfectly fine downloading a copy or looking up the information online...

you took some of the easiest chr to make out of the game.. an replaced it with something much harder for new people... removing an element of the game as well.. starting i know personally i weighted my options an found as a new player the aasimars were the easiest to start with even without the blood of angels books... it gives a good base to start with the chr..

i know your most like not going read this.. but removing something from a game isnt how you improve your product... you take the time an add... not remove... if something dosnt work you fix it... if a class is to powerful or not powerful enought you add something to make it more balanced... removing an option from a game is the wrong way to go about anything...


Blazej wrote:
GM Lamplighter wrote:
We have folks here planning on running Master of the Fallen Fortress five(!) times in a day to make a bunch of 1xp tieflings and aasimar. While they are cool for RP, both give a net +2 to abilities over any other race. Some players don't want to lose the "best" mechanical option in the game; others have concepts that work well with tor depend on the various mechanical options available to them.

When Compton mentioned in the blog about people trying power running and making 10 characters before the rule change I thought that was a bit ridiculous. "Who would get so married to a race to make it so that every character option they play has be that race?"

I guess I didn't realize how people were playing them.

Tieflings and assimar are a special and unique race. Except in PFS where at times they seem to be more plentiful than humans.

There are a few among my local players, but I'm honestly surprised at the reaction this is receiving. To be honest, knowing that there were players producing significant numbers of assimar and tieflings I'm glad they are making the change. I do like both races and I would prefer that they be special, more so than they are now.

I like spreading my races out a bit, I currently have one character of every core race, Tengu, and Nagaji. I've been thinking about it over the last week because do kind of want to make a tiefling alchemist. But based upon what I'm seeing, I think I will just let that idea go. I have plenty of characters that deserve attention and I don't need to add another native outsider to the world.

Only problem is not everyone can attend a con an win a boon... Making it unfair for people who enjoy that race... Or can only play that race


TriOmegaZero wrote:
Baxcel wrote:
No my point is if piazo is not the ones making the rules for its society gameplay why should I have to follow this new rule? If the company that owns it all dosnt make the decision then the rules are not true to the game...
Do you get to ignore your GMs houserules because he is not Paizo?

No because those rules are preset... Any rule made after is agreed upon by the group... This is a rule change an was not agreed apon by the society as a whole


TriOmegaZero wrote:
Baxcel wrote:
You skipped the main part of my question... Who makes the rules in society of its not piazo?

Because you effectively have different GMs for each.

Jason and Stephen and the other developers make the rules for Pathfinder. They set the rules for the whole game.

John and Mike and other campaign staff make the adjustments for the organized campaign. That involves banning certain options, adding houserules to ensure a similar feel from game to game, and making sure PCs come from a similar starting point.

Why would you say your home GM running his campaign is different from Paizo and that Mike and John running the organized campaign is not? Simply because they are employed to oversee the campaign?

No my point is if piazo is not the ones making the rules for its society gameplay why should I have to follow this new rule? If the company that owns it all dosnt make the decision then the rules are not true to the game...


Todd Morgan wrote:
Can someone explain to me how running a ton of games to get A/T characters to grandfather in isn't doing EXACTLY what Compton warned us not to do in the blog post?

Honestly dose it matter? If there going to remove a race from the game short notice people are going to stock pile the race so they can enjoy playing it...

For people like me who has only played Aasimar an only race I like is them I plan to stock up anyway I can so I can continue to enjoy the game... Even if that means suffering of not playing the game for a few weeks to make lv1 chrs


TriOmegaZero wrote:
Baxcel wrote:
Please explain to me how piazo isn't society?
Because you can always play in a non-PFS campaign with any Paizo race your GM will allow.

You skipped the main part of my question... Who makes the rules in society of its not piazo?


roll4initiative wrote:
There are plenty of good races out there. Each one can be maximized in their own way with all the racial options, feats, etc... out there. Hey, at least we're not stuck with only the core races!

I've looked at all the other races an none of them fit my play style.. The big thing is I dont want a minus to my chr unless I put it there... With all the stuff that attacks your stats it makes one step closer to a death without the added negative ...


Curaigh wrote:
Baxcel wrote:

Being new to pathfinder Assimar were my first race an currently the only race I play.. I have no interest in any other race... I like the ability to pick my stats for what I want to build an I dont feel I should be penalized for useing a race I like.. Piazo is making a big mistake taking away a new player friendly race...

I really hope they reverse this other wise I guess I'll be playing illegally...

Don't confuse Paizo with Pathfinder Society. :)

I would argue the versatility makes options and that too many options are not 'new player friendly'. Just my opinion, and of course has no bearing on playing your favorite race :)

Please explain to me how piazo isn't society? If there making the game an the lore an the rules then its them... If its someone else making everything up why should we listen to these new rules? It would be the same as a home game if its not the parent company running the rules


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Baxcel wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Baxcel wrote:

Being new to pathfinder Assimar were my first race an currently the only race I play.. I have no interest in any other race... I like the ability to pick my stats for what I want to build an I dont feel I should be penalized for useing a race I like.. Piazo is making a big mistake taking away a new player friendly race...

I really hope they reverse this other wise I guess I'll be playing illegally...

Your already made aasimars are still legal. If you're worried about going forward, make a few characters and run them through.
The problem with that is I havnt been able to play for past month due to work an I normally only get to play once a week if any... So I dont have time or the ability to make more...
The month notice IS a little short. Can you do an online game?

Not really I dont have anyone I can online play with... That's why I go to the game shop on Sundays... But as I said I havnt been able to for a month or so..


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Baxcel wrote:

Being new to pathfinder Assimar were my first race an currently the only race I play.. I have no interest in any other race... I like the ability to pick my stats for what I want to build an I dont feel I should be penalized for useing a race I like.. Piazo is making a big mistake taking away a new player friendly race...

I really hope they reverse this other wise I guess I'll be playing illegally...

Your already made aasimars are still legal. If you're worried about going forward, make a few characters and run them through.

The problem with that is I havnt been able to play for past month due to work an I normally only get to play once a week if any... So I dont have time or the ability to make more...


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Being new to pathfinder Assimar were my first race an currently the only race I play.. I have no interest in any other race... I like the ability to pick my stats for what I want to build an I dont feel I should be penalized for useing a race I like.. Piazo is making a big mistake taking away a new player friendly race...

I really hope they reverse this other wise I guess I'll be playing illegally...