OF COURSE, NEEDS A 9 LEVEL SPELL PROGRESSION.
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AN INT BASED DIVINE CASTER THAT USES A SPELLBOOK, GETS 2ND LEVEL SPELLS AT THIRD LEVEL AND HAS A DECENT SPELL SELECTION AND GETS PERCEPTION AS A CLASS SKILL.
BATTY BAT AM NOT BE RUDOLPH, AM DIBS ON BLITZEN. HIM AM ONLY NAME SOUND FAST ENOUGH. AM CASTING CONTINUAL FLAME ON BATTY BAT'S NOSE, AM DISMISSING ON NEW YEARS.
HASTE ONE OF THE FAVORITE THINGS AM CAN BE DOING IN COMBAT, UNTIL BLESSING OF FERVOR BECOMES AVAILABLE.
OK, DON'T FORGET SOME HEALTHY PRE BUFFING, FALSE LIFE AND AID ON YOURSELF TO MAKE IT SO YOU CAN SURVIVE BEING SLAPPED AROUND BY THE GOOD GUYS. HASTE YOUR MINIONS AND TOSS UP A PRAYER TO BOOST YOUR PEOPLE AND HINDER YOUR PLAYERS. WHILE DHAMPIR IS INTERESTING, IT TAKES A CON HIT AND DOES NOT HAVE A BONUS TO ANY OF YOUR CASTY STATS, I FELT YOUR VILLIAN COULD BE A HUMAN WHO WAS CORRUPTED BY WHATEVER SHE ACTUALLY SERVES INTO A TIEFLING.
AM LIKING MY REAL PARTY AM HAVING ME, WIZARD/CLERIC AM HAVING RANGER WITH THE SWORD AND BOARD AM HAVING PALADIN ARCHER AM HAVING MAGUS WITH THE MAGIC CROSSBOW AM HAVING INQUISITOR WITH THE MACE AND BOARD AND THE ARCHERY AM HAVING BURNING DITZ AM SORCERER WHO REMINDS EVERYONE HOW GREAT WIZARD IS BY SUCKING EVEN FOR A SORCERER. LOTS OF MEAT BETWEEN ME AND BAD GUYS, INCOMPETENT SORCERER DRAWING FIRE, LOTS OF SHOOTY ON MY SIDE, RANGER TO SOAK UP BUFFS. IS NICE.
MULTICLASSING MAKE ME MAN I AM TODAY.
AGAINST THE BARB, I SAY SCREW WITH HIS MIND, AGAINST THE MONK, I SAY CLOUD OF SMOKE AND HIDE, THEN GO AFTER HIS BOW. PROTECTION FROM ARROWS TOO, THIS IS A THEURGE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WITH A SINGLE INVISIBILITY SPELL THIS WOMAN CAN HAVE A +41 STEALTH, USE IT.
WHEN SHE DECIDES NOT TO BE SUBTLE, I RECOMMEND SHE TRAVELS BY SEDAN CHAIR CARRIED BY ANIMATED DEAD, ITS JUST A VILLAIN ASCETIC THING.
FIRST, PUT CLONE SOMEWHERE PLAYERS WILL FIND IT. THIS WILL POINT OUT A LOGICAL METHOD OF RECURRING AND GIVE YOUR PLAYERS THE SATISFACTION OF NIPPING THAT IN THE BUD. SECOND, BUFF HER INT AND CHARISMA AND HAVE HER GO AFTER THE BARBARIAN WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE A WILL SAVE WORTH MENTIONING. MINIONS, SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE ANIMATED UNDEAD FROM BOTH DIVINE AND ARCANE CLASSES, COMBINE THAT WITH 5 OR SO LEVEL ONE SERVANTS (I RECOMMEND COMMONERS WITH CRAFT AND PROFESSION SKILLS SHE WOULD FIND USEFUL) AND A 7TH LEVEL COHORT (GIVE HER A TANK) SHE SHOULD BE GOOD AT BUFFING HER OWN MINIONS AND WREAKING HAVOC ON YOUR PLAYERS AS SHE CAN GO INVISIBLE, SNEAK, DAZE AND LAUGH AS HER FRIENDS GANG UP ON THE GUY WHO CANNOT DEFEND HIMSELF.
MORE A COMMENT ON THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF SPELLS YOU CAN KNOW, SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE REDUNDANT SPELLS YOU ARE WASTING YOUR OWN TIME. BUT COMBINED SPELLS DO IN FACT HELP A SPONTANEOUS THEURGE.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE A RAGELANCEPOUNCE GET A CASTY TO STAND IN THE OPEN AND TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT THEY ARE. JUST REMEMBER TO SCOTCH GUARD YOUR CLOTHING FIRST.
DECIDED NOT TO MAKE HER SPELL LIST BUT SHE CAN SCRIBE ANY SPELL TO HER BOOK FOR FREE, AND IF YOUR PLAYERS KILL HER AND TAKE HER BOOK THE BOOK IS CONSIDERED BLANK, SO YOU DID NOT JUST HAND YOUR PLAYERS A BOOK OF FREE SPELLS. I BUDGETED A CLONE IN HER BUILD SO IF SHE DIES SHE CAN POP UP LATER. WHERE SHE KEEPS IT IS UP TO YOU, ITS NOT REALLY THE CLONER'S PROBLEM ANYMORE. SHE STANDS A DECENT CHANCE OF COVERTLY TOUCHING PEOPLE, DAZING TOUCH CAN TURN A RAGING BARBARIAN INTO A STATUE UNBELIEVABLY EASILY. I WOULD OPEN UP BY SURROUNDING HER IN A CLOUD AND HAVING HER BUFF HER ANIMATED DEAD AND MINIONS BEFORE GOING INVISIBLE BEFORE SNEAKING OUT UNDER COVER OF INVISIBILITY TO WREAK HAVOC ON YOUR PLAYERS.
WHAT RACE SHOULD SHE BE OR APPEAR TO BE?
GIVE ME SOME TIME, BUT I CAN TELL YOU SHE DOES NOT DO MOST OF THE ASSKICKING HERSELF, SHE BUFFS HER SKELETAL CHAMPION COHORT AND SCREWS WITH HIM USING THE GLORY OF LOW LEVEL SPELLS.
LIKING THE IDEA BUT NEED MORE INFO, DO YOU HAVE A THEME IN MIND? WHAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE POINT BUY, WHAT RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ARE IMPORTANT FOR YOUR THEURGE?
Stats are up above, as I said before, a 12 INT is not a wizard in the making. :) And yes, I'm planning on taking Practiced Spellcaster for both classes, whichever they end up being. A two feat tax to boost CL by 4 each is not at all a waste. HENCE THE CRAFT MISC MAGIC ITEMS, THE ABILITY TO LEARN ANY SPELL YOUR CLASS PROVIDES IS THAT IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY TO THEURGY. AND YOU HAVE A POSITIVE INTELLIGENCE BONUS IS GOOD ENOUGH. JUST DON'T FOCUS ON SPELLS THAT ALLOW A SAVING THROW.
ARE YOU ALLOWED 3.5 FEATS? HOW ARE YOU SET UP FOR TRAITS? PRACTICED SPELLCASTER (FROM 3.5) AND/OR MAGICAL KNACK HELP ALLOT WITH CASTER LEVEL. IF YOUR INTELLIGENCE IS NOT COMPLETELY IN THE TOILET I STILL STRONGLY RECOMMEND WIZARD OVER SORCERER, BUT ITS YOUR CROSS TO BEAR, YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.
Well, there's always the Arcane Armor Training line. Unless you plan on Quickening spells down the line, you might not need the swift action for anything else anyway. Seeing as you'd meet the prerequisites just from having a level in Oracle, it wouldn't be horrendous. WITH THE BUILD HE'S PROPOSING HE NEEDS TO BE 16TH LEVEL BEFORE HE CAN QUICKEN A FIRST LEVEL SPELL, ARCANE ARMOR TRAINING IS FINE, I RECOMMEND PAIRING IT WITH CRAFTING ARMS AND ARMOR AS THE REAL BENEFIT IS PUTTING ALL SORTS OF RESISTANCES AND SKILL BONUSES INTO A ARMOR SLOT. PASSIVE BONUSES LIKE IMPROVED INIT, TOUGHNESS AND SPELL FOCUS TEND TO TREAT A THEURGE BETTER THAN METAMAGIC.
IMPROVED INITIATIVE - GOING FIRST IS VERY IMPORTANT
IF YOU HAVE A FAMILIAR INSTEAD OF A BONDED OBJECT:
METAMAGIC IS ACTUALLY LESS IMPORTANT FOR YOU, YOU HAVE MORE SPELLS BUT LESS SPELL LEVELS TO PLAY WITH. AS YOU ARE OFTEN A BUFFMEISTER EXTEND SPELL WORKS WELL AND IS REASONABLY PRICED. COSMOPOLITAN - PERCEPTION AS A CLASS SKILL AND SOMETHING USEFUL LIKE UMD. VARSIAN TATTOO - CONJURATION IS USEFUL IF YOU ARE A HEALER. TOUGHNESS - YOU WILL NEVER REGRET MORE HIT POINTS, BUT YOU SHOULD MAKE A BELT TO DEAL WITH THAT. GREAT FORTITUDE, LIGHTENING REFLEXES - YOU SHOULD HAVE A CRAZY HIGH WILL SAVE, BUT BOOSTING YOUR OTHERS IS NICE. ARCANE ARMOR TRAINING - YOUR CLERIC OR DRUID CLASS GIVES YOU ARMOR PROFICIENCY AND THIS FEAT LETS YOU HANG SOME IMPRESSIVE ENCHANTMENTS ON YOUR ARMOR SLOT. IF YOUR GM ALLOWS ULTIMATE COMBAT ARMORS DISREGARD THIS AS SILK CEREMONIAL ARMOR OR A HARAMIKI FILLS THIS NEED. ITS NOT ABOUT THE AC ITS ABOUT ALL THE NEAT ARMOR ENCHANTS. CRAFT ARMS AND ARMOR - SEE ABOVE, A SINGLE GARMENT THAT CAN GIVE RESISTANCE TO ALL SORTS OF ENERGY, BONUSES TO SKILLS AND DAMAGE REDUCTION OR RESISTANCE TO CRITICAL HITS OR SNEAK ATTACKS. ALSO, I CAN SEE A THEURGE DROPPING ANY SCHOOL EXCEPT TRANSMUTATION. I'M NOT SAYING YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON IT BUT ALMOST A THIRD OF ALL WIZARD SPELLS ARE TRANSMUTATIONS AND ALMOST EVERY BUFF WORTH TAKING IS A TRANSMUTATION. SERIOUSLY DROP ENCHANTMENT (YOU CAN DO MOST OF THAT STUFF WITH CLERIC SPELLS), NECROMANCY OR DIVINATION BEFORE TRANSMUTATION.
I AM TRYING TO BE HELPFUL. LOOK, YOU NEED TO BE 4TH LEVEL WITH TWO CLASSES BEFORE YOU CAN QUALIFY FOR THE CLASS, THE 6 LEVEL SLOG IS DOABLE FOR A WIZARD-CLERIC/DRUID THEURGE BECAUSE YOU CAN GORGE YOURSELF ON VARIETY. GOING THEURGE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO LEARN ANY AND ALL OF YOUR CLASS'S SPELLS IS MORE BORING THEN PLAYING A FIGHTY. YOU HAVE ONLY ONE SECOND LEVEL SPELL UNTIL 9TH LEVEL, MULTI CLASSING DOES NOTHING TO HELP YOUR BLOODLINE ABILITIES.
THIS HOW AM MYSTIC THEURGE ALWAYS TALK, THIS HOW AM PARTY TALK. THE ISSUE IS NOT OPTIMIZATION THE ISSUE IS BEING 8TH LEVEL AND HAVING NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT, THE ISSUE IS BEING 9TH LEVEL AND NOT BEING ABLE TO CAST THIRD LEVEL SPELLS, OR BEING 10TH AND ONLY GETTING ONE THIRD LEVEL SPELL FROM EACH CLASS. AM SOME BUILDS WHERE MAGUS WOULD BE WORKING, BUT MT IS A WIZARD CLASS.
AM ADVISING YOU NOT TO DO IT, SINGLE CASTING ATTRIBUTE IS NOT WORTH A 4 LEVEL DIP. SORCERER ONLY A DECENT CLASS WHEN YOU CAREFULLY CHOOSE BLOODLINE POWERS AND BUILD ON THEM. THEURGY NOT PLAYING WELL WITH BLOODLINE POWERS. THEURGY NOT FOR HITTING, BARBAROANM FOR HITTING, THEURGY FOR BUFFING, DEBUFFING AND CHANGING REALITY TO SUIT YOUR NEEDS.
AM MYSTIC THEURGE HAVE IDEA, AM MYSTIC THEURGE HAVE LEADERSHIP FEAT, HALF OF AM THEURGE'S FOLLOWERS ARE MOSTLY MENFOLK WHO HAVE CRAFTY TYPE SKILLS OTHER HALF ARE MOSTLY WOMENFOLK WITH GATHERY TYPE SKILLS. AM THEURGE NOT FIXATED ON HETERO NORMS OR GENDER ROLES AND AM THEURGE CLERIC OF SHEYLN SO AM HAVING SAME SOME SEX COUPLES AS WELL. POINT IS AM MYSTIC THEURGE'S FOLLOWERS IS A WANDERING VILLAGE OF CRAFTYS WHO BUILD BUILDINGS WITH AM THEURGE WHO IS A MASTER ARCHITECT WHO GOES AROUND DESIGNING GREAT STRUCTURES AND THEN BUILDING THEM WITH HIS FOLLOWERS. AM THEURGE MAKE SURE THEY ALL HAVE YURTS, HORSES, LIVESTOCK, MASTERWORK TOOLS, MAGICAL HEALING AND SOME MAGIC ITEMS BECAUSE AM MYSTIC THEURGE IS GENEROUS, NOT CAUSE HE HAS TO BUT CAUSE HE WANTS TO. AM MYSTIC THEURGE IS WORKING ON PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT BUILDING AND NEED ENGINEERING CONSULTATION, SO HE SEND SENDING TO GOOD FRIEND AM BARBARIAN AND AM BATTY BAT (AM MYSTIC THEURGE NOT LIKE ELITISM SO HE ALLWAYS KEEPS BATTY BAT IN LOOP, MANY WOULD TREAT HIM LIKE CLASS ABILITY BUT AM MYSTIC THEURGE KNOW BATTY BAT IS PERSON) AND ASKS HIM FOR ENGINEERING CONSULT. AM BARBARIAN AGREES CAUSE AM MYSTIC THEURGE IS CONSIDERATE FRIEND WHO SEES MORE THAN A RAGE LANCE POUNCY BARBARIAN, AM MYSTIC THEURGE SEES BEAUTIFUL GARDEN IN AM BARBARIAN AND IS TRUE FRIEND EVEN IF AM DWARF CLERIC SAY AM THEURGE NOT REAL AM CHARACTER. WHILE AM BARBARIAN IS SKETCHING OUT SCAFFOLDING DESIGN TO AM THEURGE'S FOLLOWERS CAN CONSTRUCT TOWER SAFELY AND EFFICIENTLY AM MYSTIC THEURGE CASTS HERO'S FEAST, AND PRESTIDIGITATION TO CLEAN DEAD BUGS OFF OF AM BARBARIAN AND BATTY BAT, TWO OF AM THEURGE'S FOLLOWERS RUB WARM OIL INTO BATTY BAT'S SORE MUSCLES. THEY EAT, TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT, REMINISCE ABOUT OLD TIMES AND THAT TIME SCHRODINGER'S CASTY CHANGED HIS BUILD FOUR TIMES IN A SINGLE FIGHT. ABOUT THIS TIME SCHRODINGER'S CASTY APPEARS OVER THE HORIZON AND CASTS HIS SPELL "DELIVER SINISTER MONOLOGUE" (IS LIKE MESSAGE, ONLY MORE ANNOYING), AM MYSTIC THEURGE SAYS "I'M THE HOST, I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT." BUT AM BARBARIAN SAYS "YOU KNOW THE RULES, HE'S MY NEMESIS, I'LL TAKE CARE OF HIM", AM MYSTIC THEURGE SAYS "AT LEAST LET ME BUFF YOU" AND AM BARBARIAN SAYS "OKEY DOKEY". AM MYSTIC THEURGE USES SPELL SYNTHESIS TO CAST WEAPON OF AWE AND ENLARGE PERSON ON AM BARBARIAN, THIS GIVES AM BARBARIAN. AM MYSTIC THEURGE'S FOLLOWERS RUN INTO A GROUP OF EXPEDITION PAVILIONS THAT ARE THE EMERGENCY LOCATION AND AM MYSTIC THEURGE COVERS THEM WITH A ECTOPLASMIC WALL OF STONE, AM THEURGE'S FOLLOWERS BEGINS PLAYING THE EMERGENCY LYRE OF BUILDING WHICH IS USED TO PRESERVE STRUCTURES AND QUICKLY PLANT CROPS AND CLEAN UP SITES BUT NOT TO BUILD BECAUSE OF THE UNION CONTRACT. AM BARBARIAN IS NOW DOING RAGELANCEPOUNCE WITH A LARGE LANCE WHICH DOES 2D6 INSTEAD OF 1D8, HE IS +2 STRONGER FROM A SIZE BONUS AND HIS WEAPON DEALS ANOTHER +2 DAMAGE BRINGING HIS RAGELANCEPOUNCE TO +48/48/43/38/33 for 6d6+159, +177 VS CASTYS. IF AM BARBARIAN SMASH PUNY CAST IN SIGHT OF MY TENT THEN HE CAN SEE THE FLAG ON TOP, WHICH GIVE HIM A +2 TO SKILLS, ATTACK ROLLS AND SAVING THROWS (BATTY BAT TOO), FLAG AM VERY PROMINENT CAUSE I HAVE MANY FOLLOWERS MAKING SKILL CHECKS IN SIGHT OF IT ALL DAY LONG. FLAG AM PROTECTED BY HARDNESS, FORTIFYING STONE AND RUNE THAT CAST WALL OF FORCE AROUND IT WHEN IT TOUCHED, NOBODY AM CAPTURING FLAG OF EVERYONE DO GOOD. I NOW CAUSE MORE DAMAGE THAN RAGELANCEPOUNCE BY MAKING RAGELANCEPOUNCE BETTER, AM DOING DAMAGE WITH POWER OF FRIENDSHIP AND TEAMWORK, NOT CARE IF AM BARBARIAN DO MORE DAMAGE BECAUSE AM MYSTIC THEURGE HAVE BEST ABILITY OF ALL, GOOD FRIENDS.
NOBODY LIKES KINETICKILLORBITALSTRIKE?
PUT ON NECKLACE OF CLEAN AIR ALWAYS AND KIDNEY BELT OR RING OF COLD NOT BE BOTHERING ME SO MUCH. CAST OVERLAND FLIGHT, GO UP FOR SEVERAL HOURS. CAST EXTENDED MAJOR CREATION TO MAKE BIIIIIIG ADAMANTITE SPIKE, LET IT FALL ON OR NEAR TARGET. TUNGSTEN SPIKE IF YOU HAVE LOTS OF KNOW METALLURGY. GO BACK TO MAKING MAGIC ITEMS FOR FRIEND AND BEST CUSTOMER AM BARBARIAN.
AM BARBARIAN and BATTY BAT died tragically one day while moving too fast in a slightly downward direction and encountered massive arboreal resistanceOf course he can see the mountain. He isn't teleporting, he's moving. Because he isn't doing anything that requires him to move in a straight line, he can change his course as he moves. BATTY's fly skill is surely sufficient to do any aerial maneuver that might be required.Of course he can. I've posted earlier in the thread that seeing a mountain is not something that requires a perception check. It'd just be hilarious if he ran into one because he was moving too fast to see it before he moved. THEN THEY WOKE UP IN THEIR CLONING TANKS AND I USED SOME SCROLLS OF RESTORATION ON THEM AND THEY WENT ON THEIR WAY, AFTER SUNDERING DEATH.
DWARF CLERIC IS A BIT BOSSY, CAN MAKE POUNCY THEURGE BUT IT IS LIKE FISH WITH BICYCLE. WHY AM I NOT ALLOWED TO BE AM PARTY'S "AM Q"? I LIKE MAKING LANCES AND GOGGLES OF DETECT SCHRODINGER'S CASTY, I LIKE HAVING BUFFS HANDY, LIKE HAVING BAG OF ENDLESS MOVIE THEATER POPCORN TO SIT BACK AND WATCH AM PARTY BEAT UP MINIONS OF SCHRODINGER'S CASTY. 1. AM 2/3 ARCANE CASTY, 2/3 DIVINE CASTY.
THIS IS WHY I PUMP MY CON SO HIGH, GOT BELT THAT GIVES CON, WROTE BOOK ON CON, WISHED FOR CON. ALSO HAVE CAVES WITH CLONES IN IT, AND REINCARNATE WHEN I GET TOO OLD, AM NOT HARD TO KNOCK DOWN, AM VERY HARD TO KEEP DOWN.
THEN THEY AM CONFUSING. ALSO WHY YOU NO AM SPEAKING LIKE TRUE AM CHARACTER WITH ALL CAPS?GUYS, AM CLEARLY ENEMY OF SCHRODINGER CASTY. ENEMY OF ENEMY AM FRIEND.So what if they are the Enemy of an Enemy of an Enemy? USE YOUR SUITE OF DETECTY ABILITIES ON HIM, HE MIGHT BE SCHRODINGER'S CASTY IN DISGUISE.
GUYS, AM CLEARLY ENEMY OF SCHRODINGER CASTY. ENEMY OF ENEMY AM FRIEND.So what if they are the Enemy of an Enemy of an Enemy? THEN RAGELANCEPOUNCE OR CHALLANGELANCEPOUNCE OR POUNCECHARGESPAMLANCESPAMEGGSCHARGEPOUNCELANCESPAMBACONEGGSPOUNCE. ITS NOT COMPLICATED, CASTY WHO HELPS YOU AND IS NOT CONSTANTLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KILL YOU IS FRIENDLY CASTY AND NOT FOR LANCING.
GUYS GUYS GUYS, AM YOUR SUPPORT CASTY, WHERE DO YOU THINK YOUR BELTS AND LANCES COME FROM? AND AM NINJA I KNOW YOU IS OUT THERE NO BACKSTABBING ME OR YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT YOUR GREATER SHADOWED ARMOR. AM NOT A FULL CASTY, AM A TWO THIRD CASTY AND A TWO THIRD CASTY, DO NOT THINK TO HARD ABOUT WHAT THAT ADDS UP TO. I AM GUY THAT ALL THOSE HYPOTHETICAL MAGIC ITEMS COME FROM, MOST OF THEM ANYWAY. AM SPENDING FEATS ON CRAFTING AND INIT, FOR ME IT IS HAVING THE RIGHT TOOL AND BEING PREPARED TO USE IT AS FAST AS NEEDED, NOT ABOUT BLASTING ENEMYS, GOT BARBARIAN, FIGHTER AND CAVALIER FOR DAMAGE, ME MAKING THEM BETTER AND WATCHING.
+16-18 INIT (BASED ON A ELITE ARRAY) GOODBYE {BAMF}!
OK, AM MYSTIC THEURGE HERE, LET ME JUST START BY POINTING OUT THAT I AM INHERENTLY SUB OPTIMAL IN A DPS OR RAW POWER SCENARIO, THIS NOT BE CHANGING FACT THAT MYSTIC THEURGE IS VERY FUN CASTY TO PLAY. AM CASTING DIVINE SPELLS, AM CASTING ARCANE SPELLS, A BIT BETTER AT ONE THAN OTHER USUALLY UNLESS PLAYER HAS OCD. AM ALWAYS FORGING NEW TOYS FOR BUDDIES BECAUSE OF CONSTANT THREAT OF DARK LORD SCHRODINGER'S CASTY. AM GOOD AT MAKING BUDDIES EVEN MORE POWERFUL AND WATCHING ACTION FROM SIDELINES AFTER USING PERFORMANCE ENHANCING SPELLS ON THEM, AM LOTS OF FUN AT PARTYS. |