My apologies in advance if this has been answered before, but I wasn't able to find a post dealing specifically with this:
Consider a 14th level monk taking the Qinggong Power Blood Crow Strike, gaining it as a SLA (at the cost of ki points). Casting time for Blood Crow Strike is one round - which means that it can be quickened by the Quicken SLA feat.
With the Quicken spell like ability feat, my question is:
Will the monk be able to flurry twice in one round, first as a swift action, then as a full-round action?
I'd prefer RAW interpretations and links to official rulings/FAQs/Dev comments if possible please (RAI discussions often tends to become very subjective)
as far as I can tell you should be able to 3/day swift action flurry into full-round flurry. There do not appear to be any rulings on any of these abilities that state otherwise. The only issue I'd think you might have is whether or not a DM wants you taking monster feats, but if it were me as the DM I'd allow it, given that you still need to be at least 16th level to actually quicken Blood Crow Strike.
Thanks for your reply - No I haven't seen any ruling that would disallow this either. And I belive it has been stated elsewhere that characters can take feats found in the Bestiary as long as they are eligible, perhaps someone can confirm/deny this?
For Quicken SLA you only need to have a SLA at 10th level, which you at 14th level can have through e.g. bark skin (4th level Qinggong power)
Also, would this not be possible at 14th level, when you can get the Blood Crow strike power? (assuming you had already taken the Quicken SLA at a previous level to e.g. quicken said bark skin ki power)?
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Also, would this not be possible at 14th level, when you can get the Blood Crow strike power? (assuming you had already taken the Quicken SLA at a previous level to e.g. quicken said bark skin ki power)?
I think you'd have to be level 16.
First of all, because when you take the feat, you choose one SLA to quicken,
"Choose one of the creature's spell-like abilities, subject to the restrictions described in this feat."
there is no text covering "switching" the SLA to quicken.
Secondly, the feat gives minimum Caster Level to based on the spell level of the SLA. In this case, the spell level is 4 for Blood Crow Strike, so the minimum CL is 16.
Yes, I see - I agree you do have to be level 16 for this to work. It's really clear in the feat text when you read it through with the right goggles on. :) Thanks.
Edit: Though you may have to wait until level 17 to actually have an available feat slot - or else retrain an existing feat...
So if 2 x flurry in one round is according to RAW, we're looking at first 4 ranged attacks as a swift action, then full iterative, two flurry and one ki attack for (4+2+1) 7 attacks on the full attack (unchained monk). Add in a haste attack for good measure and let's assume your stunning fist triggers medusa's wrath for an added 2 free attacks, just for kicks. Add on an elbow smash style strike for a total of 11 attacks on your full attack. Or 15 attacks in one round. Starting with a flying kick (=pounce) from 50ft away.
If this is all kosher, it does start to seem like a good way for the monk to be viable compared with fighters/paladins etc. in terms of raw damage output...