Fame & Reputation VS Prestige


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Liberty's Edge

I'm having some confusion with how these systems work together. Can someone explain how, if they even do, or if they have been converted to work as one?

Thanks in advance.

Sczarni

I assume you mean in Pathfinder Society?

Your "Fame" score is the total amount of Prestige Points you've ever earned. Your Fame can only ever increase.

Your current "Prestige" is the amount of Prestige Points you currently have. Your amount of Prestige can raise or lower over time, or, if you never spend Prestige Points, will be equal to your Fame score.

Prestige Points can be "spent" on a number of vanities, titles, boons, or items, as laid out in the Guide to Organized Play.

You typically earn 1 or 2 Prestige Points per scenario completed, or sometimes zero, and you typically earn 4 Prestige Points per module completed.

Some boons can earn you extra Prestige as well.

Liberty's Edge

Actually I'm doing a writeup for my campaign regarding the Razmiran Church. I found the entries in the Faction Guide and the Occult Mysteries to be compelling but the former is using Prestige, and the later Fame.

I didn't think the faction guide was primarily for PFS Play, although I did note a couple of times they used language to indicate it could also be used in "home play".


Pathfinder Lost Omens Subscriber

are you talking about this instead?

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Books like The Faction Guide used 'Total Prestige Award' and 'Current Prestige Award' to indicate (respectively) the overall amount of prestige you'd ever earned with a group and how much you had left 'unspent'. More recent books (like Inner Sea Combat) have switched to using 'Fame' for what used to be TPA and 'Prestige' for what used to be CPA. Is that perhaps what you're after?

Liberty's Edge

Yes, the Fame and Prestige is taken from the Campaign Guide and used to great effect in Occult Mysteries. The part that's throwing me a curve-ball is that Razmirans are also mentioned in the Faction Guide.

Obviously the Faction Guide was done some time ago.

I'm just wondering if there is a combination of the two systems, a conversion, or if they are two totally different systems that the GM would have to use.

Seems to me its wanting to be used together.

Liberty's Edge

ProPotts, that's exactly what I'm looking for and wondering. Both systems seem to do the same thing but slightly differently.

Liberty's Edge

According to what I'm reading:

Fame = TPA
Prestige Points = CPA

Right?

Except that perhaps you cam have a TPA with a faction/organisation which is different to that of your Fame rating?

Did I also read that you can only be a member of one faction? Or was there something about belonging to two, but one is always reduced by a factor of something?

Too many books Paizo!

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Yes, Fame = TPA & Prestige = CPA: they just changed the names used, 'cos it was kinda' confusing to have everything as varieties of 'prestige award'.

You can be a member of multiple factions (as per page 3 of The Faction Guide) but since being a member involves duty as well as benefits it can get complex and difficult if the two factions are working at odds (either directly against each other, or simply just trying to both get you to do different things at the same time). How viable that'd be would, I guess, depend on the factions / schools / whatever involved and the campaign set-up. For example, each PC could be a member of a different faction (religion, guild, magic school, etc.), but they could all also happen to work for the King and you could track their Fame and Prestige with the royal household as well, to held determine how well liked and what sort of rewards they reap from royal service.

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