Does Circlet of Persuasion set up a precedence?


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The circlet grants a +3 competance bonus on charisma based checks, such as charisma based skills, charisma checks, and, I think, the occasional class feature such as wild empathy. Are there reasons there similar items could not exist and not disrupt "balance"?

What got me thinking about this was a way to bring Gauntlets of Ogre Power back. A +3 competance bonus would affect Climb, Swim, and strength checks to lift, break and sometimes escape things. I can't think of what else it would affect since maneuvers are no longer strength checks.

There could be one for each ability score of course, but is there one that would be too powerful?


I for one cannot think of a reason, unless initiative checks count as dexterity checks or something.

I like this idea though, and I will be watching this thread.


Initiative does count as Dexterity check.


It's basically a trade of breadth vs focus, as it's the same bonus type as stuff like a cloak of elvenkind. If you make a 'circlet of agility', you won't get any more stealth or acrobatics than the guy that picked up some boots and cloak. In fact, you have less.

I would agree to the clause of not applying to attack rolls, saves and initiative.

Read the definition of 'check' in the core book.


To stabilize when dying is a constitution check, but I don't think a bonus to that is a terrible thing.

Another thing, would it make sense to make all of them the same item slot, or could you do others?


Hmm. The way I'd do it:

Circlet of Persuasion
Aura faint transmutation; CL 5th
Slot head; Price 4500 gp; Weight —.
Description
This silver headband grants a +3 competence bonus on the wearer's Charisma-based checks (not including attack rolls, combat maneuver rolls, saving throws, or initiative checks).
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, eagle's splendor; Cost 2,250 gp

Diadem of Intellect
Aura faint transmutation; CL 5th
Slot head; Price 4500 gp; Weight —.
Description
This ruby and electrum diadem grants a +3 competence bonus on the wearer's Charisma-based checks (not including attack rolls, combat maneuver rolls, saving throws, or initiative checks).
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, fox's cunning; Cost 2,250 gp

Gauntlets of Ogre Power
Aura faint transmutation; CL 5th
Slot hands; Price 4500 gp; Weight —.
Description
These gauntlets are made of tough leather with iron studs running across the back of the hands and fingers, granting a +3 competence bonus on the wearer's Strength-based checks (not including attack rolls, combat maneuver rolls, saving throws, or initiative checks).
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, bull's strength; Cost 2,250 gp

Gloves of Dexterity
Aura faint transmutation; CL 5th
Slot hands; Price 4500 gp; Weight —.
Description
These thin leather gloves are very flexible and allow for delicate manipulation, granting a +3 competence bonus on the wearer's Dexterity-based checks (not including attack rolls, combat maneuver rolls, saving throws, or initiative checks).
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, cat's grace; Cost 2,250 gp

Halo of Insight
Aura faint transmutation; CL 5th
Slot head; Price 4500 gp; Weight —.
Description
This golden ring hovers just above the wearer's head, though it still uses the head magic item slot. It grants a +3 competence bonus on the wearer's Wisdom-based checks (not including attack rolls, combat maneuver rolls, saving throws, or initiative checks).
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, owl's wisdom; Cost 2,250 gp

Handwraps of Endurance
Aura faint transmutation; CL 5th
Slot hands; Price 4500 gp; Weight —.
Description
These tough strips of cloth are wrapped around the hands, granting the wearer a +3 competence bonus on Constitution-based checks (not including attack rolls, combat maneuver rolls, saving throws, or initiative checks).
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, bear's endurance; Cost 2,250 gp


Slots following the pattern of "all mental on one, all physical on the another" for the PF actual stat boosters, using the PF circlet of persuasion to mark the first and the 3.5 gauntlets of ogre power and gloves of dexterity to to guide the latter.


And now a fairly straightforward extension:

Circlet of Persuasion, Greater
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 11th
Slot head; Price 18,000 gp; Weight —.
Description
This silver headband functions as a circlet of persuasion, except the competence bonus it grants is +6.
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, mass eagle's splendor; Cost 9,000 gp

Diadem of Intellect, Greater
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 11th
Slot head; Price 18,000 gp; Weight —.
Description
This diadem functions as a diadem of intellect, except the competence bonus it grants is +6.
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, mass fox's cunning; Cost 9,000 gp

Gauntlets of Ogre Power, Greater
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 11th
Slot head; Price 18,000 gp; Weight —.
Description
These gauntlets function as gauntlets of ogre power, except the competence bonus they grants is +6.
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, mass bull's strength; Cost 9,000 gp

Gloves of Dexterity, Greater
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 11th
Slot head; Price 18,000 gp; Weight —.
Description
These gloves function as gloves of dexterity, except the competence bonus they grants is +6.
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, mass cat's grace; Cost 9,000 gp

Halo of Insight, Greater
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 11th
Slot head; Price 18,000 gp; Weight —.
Description
This halo functions as a halo of insight, except the competence bonus it grants is +6.
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, mass owl's wisdom; Cost 9,000 gp

Handwraps of Endurance, Greater
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 11th
Slot head; Price 18,000 gp; Weight —.
Description
These tough strips of cloth function as handwraps of endurance, except the competence bonus they grants is +6.
Construction
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, mass bear's endurance; Cost 9,000 gp


Nice job see. You do have a typo in the diadem of intellect though!

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