When did Halloween become Politically Incorrect?


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Scarab Sages

Patrick Curtin wrote:
Hey the Brits turned my fine Irish family name of MacCuirtin (son of a hunchback in Gaelic) into something everyone is bound to spell like the window coverings ... :(

Ah, just pull yourself together!

DYSWIJD?

LOL

Scarab Sages

mwbeeler wrote:
My wife too (it’s a good look), and before my father’s adopted family came over, they were Beohler.

You know, when I first saw that, I read it as 'they were Beholders...'

Was that just me?


magdalena thiriet wrote:

...hehee, somehow this talk about white oppressors is indeed a bit weird, as Finns too were not particularly big on oppressing anyone except occasionally each others and Sami. And in US were also second-class together with Irish and Native Americans. And yeah, I am pale.

I have never read or heard about the Finns receiving poor treatment on emigrating here. Could you point out any good reads on it? Also, when did the Finns come here in large numbers? I would think 1880s-1920s like most everyone else.

Liberty's Edge

I think Jack Chick's tracts have been helping to spread misinformation about a wide variety of topics over the years. Halloween is one of his favorites. Some evangelicals read them and immediately swallow his fictional "facts" hook, line, and sinker. David Skal wrote a great book called "Death Makes A Holiday" about Halloween and does a good job of addressing some of the ridiculous claims Chick makes.

Go to First Bite

OR

Go to Boo!

AND

Go to Happy Halloween!

AND

Go to The Devil's Night

And every gamer's favorite:

Go to Dark Dungeons

Scarab Sages

Saint_Meerkat wrote:

And every gamer's favorite:

Go to Dark Dungeons

I think more lady gamers should consider going out as 'Miss Frost'!

Liberty's Edge

Snorter wrote:
Saint_Meerkat wrote:

And every gamer's favorite:

Go to Dark Dungeons

I think more lady gamers should consider going out as 'Miss Frost'!

I've got a nice leather duster that might work for that. Hmmmm...

Liberty's Edge

Freehold DM wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Damn, that's like something out of a Charles Addams cartoon.

Liberty's Edge

Freehold DM wrote:
Kirth Gersen wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Awright Jade, lemme bring the car around. ROAD TRIP! I hope they have a Pizza Hut there...I need to eat before I raze.

Funny you should say that -- the town successfully blocked the opening of a McDonald's for years, claiming an establishment "with no purpose other than to cater to bums and low-class hoodlums" would irreparably damage the place.

They did end up with a Subway shop, though.

Oh god. Where is this again? Because I've got to bring a few of my more..ah..unsavory friends with me when I visit. I hope you like Coolio, cuz that's what we'll be blasting when we roll through town at 20 mph!

Can I be your hood ornament?

There's nothing I love more than f%&#ing with stuck-up bigots.

Liberty's Edge

Freehold DM wrote:
Public Enemy...*sniff* Those were the days when rap was real, not the pre-packaged wannabe pimp/gangsta crap that's out now.

A-friggin'-men.

The Exchange

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Public Enemy...*sniff* Those were the days when rap was real, not the pre-packaged wannabe pimp/gangsta crap that's out now.
A-friggin'-men.

I must agree.

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Awright Jade, lemme bring the car around. ROAD TRIP! I hope they have a Pizza Hut there...I need to eat before I raze.

We'll add it into our Mapquest search.

Considering the price of gas, which though much lower than it was is still high, we should probably figure out everyone who needs a visit and then plot the most economical path to visit them all. And we also need a 'just in case it gets messy' kit for the trunk.

Hey, I've got the goods, man. I know a few people, we can get rolling in a couple of days. Time to break some kneecaps.

Liberty's Edge

Saint_Meerkat wrote:

I think Jack Chick's tracts have been helping to spread misinformation about a wide variety of topics over the years. Halloween is one of his favorites. Some evangelicals read them and immediately swallow his fictional "facts" hook, line, and sinker. David Skal wrote a great book called "Death Makes A Holiday" about Halloween and does a good job of addressing some of the ridiculous claims Chick makes.

Go to First Bite

OR

Go to Boo!

AND

Go to Happy Halloween!

AND

Go to The Devil's Night

And every gamer's favorite:

Go to Dark Dungeons

And once more, without fail, Chick quotes "Paradise Lost" as Christian doctrine. Has this guy even read the Bible?


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


Hey, I've got the goods, man. I know a few people, we can get rolling in a couple of days. Time to break some kneecaps.

Evil people don't deserve functioning patellas. That's just unconscious knowledge, man.

Liberty's Edge

Just remember guys, when you're rolling through New Canaan, "9-1-1 is a Joke" is a must play track...

Of course, i'd throw in "I Ain't No Joke" just for the heck of it, gotta have my Eric B and Rakim represented...


Just don't play "F*** THA POLICE." The cops there used to set up David Letterman-specific speed traps; you could go 100 mph in a 40 mph zone and they'd give you a friendly wave -- but Letterman would be pulled over, every day, going 40.5 mph. Apparently the first time he got pulled over, he tried to play the celebrity card, and they were somewhat underwhelmed...

Liberty's Edge

Kirth Gersen wrote:
Just don't play "F*** THA POLICE." The cops there used to set up David Letterman-specific speed traps; you could go 100 mph in a 40 mph zone and they'd give you a friendly wave -- but Letterman would be pulled over, every day, going 40.5 mph. Apparently the first time he got pulled over, he tried to play the celebrity card, and they were somewhat underwhelmed...

but, but, but...what if i play the rage against the machine cover from the philly republican convention in '00?

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


Hey, I've got the goods, man. I know a few people, we can get rolling in a couple of days. Time to break some kneecaps.
Evil people don't deserve functioning patellas. That's just unconscious knowledge, man.

Right on, man.

My New Canaan playlist:

Black Flag - "Police Story"
Rollins Band and Ice-T - "Police Story" (cover)
Black Flag - "Slip It In"
Black Flag - "Rise Above"
Public Enemy - "Louder than a Bomb"
Rage Against the Machine - "Sleep Now in the Fire"
MC5 - "Kick Out the Jams"
Rage Against the Machine - "Kick Out the Jams" (cover)
Bad Brains and Henry Rollins - "Kick Out the Jams" (cover)
Minor Threat - "Straight Edge"
Trash - "Lick My Lollipop Baby"
Jane's Addiction - "Been Caught Stealing"
Marilyn Manson - "Kill Your God"
Dead Kennedys - "Nazi Punks F~+% Off"
Napalm Death - "Nazi Punks F*%! Off" (cover)
Black Flag - "My War"
Cradle of Filth - "Devil Woman"
Seether - "F##% Me Like You Hate Me"
KMFDM - "Free Your Hate"
KMFDM - "WWIII"

Basically the loudest, angriest, most obnoxious stuff I could think of.


The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


Hey, I've got the goods, man. I know a few people, we can get rolling in a couple of days. Time to break some kneecaps.
Evil people don't deserve functioning patellas. That's just unconscious knowledge, man.

It's like anywhere else; it's just the evil people are a bit more vocal there. There are/were some sublimely excellent people there as well, whom I'd hate to see kneecapped.


Snorter wrote:


Ah, just pull yourself together!

DYSWIJD?

LOL

ERGH. Too early for jokes on my drapery-similar name ... Maybe I should move to Australia, their WWII PM was a Curtin, maybe go to Curtin University and play the same name card. Might get me a free semester or something.

The Exchange

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Zuxius wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
It became politically incorrect when someone realized that there might be some religious aspect to Halloween. My wife works for the Headstart program and the directives that came down to them is that since not everyone is Christian and because diversety must be respected Halloween is not celebrated in the Headstart program. Teachers may have a "costume day" or "pajama day," but they may not decorate for or celebrate Halloween.

When lawyers were given power over the masses, the minority became empowered to decide what is best for the majority. Politically correct is now bent to whatever your agenda is. Halloween is ripe for the taking. It is a Pagan thing that superstition keeps afloat. I am sure many religions would happily wipe it off the face of the earth. The major obstacle is our Candy Vendors who would definitely object to its being suppressed. Aside from that, it is a shame that our culture is being stripped away bit by bit till we forget what was special about being alive. I remember making witches and ghosts from cut paper and decorating the classroom. I rememeber all the cool scary mystique that transformed my world into something wonderfully atmospheric. I am ashamed of this correct world that we live in. It hurts more than it fixes.

Cheers,
Zuxius

THANK YOU. Now I don't have to post my opinion, you've got it down perfectly.

Amen Broth......oops, ahem, I mean, May the Gods of the Harvest not seek vengeance on us for not bringing the Autumn Sacrifice.

Cheers,
Zuxius


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


Hey, I've got the goods, man. I know a few people, we can get rolling in a couple of days. Time to break some kneecaps.
Evil people don't deserve functioning patellas. That's just unconscious knowledge, man.

Right on, man.

My New Canaan playlist:

Black Flag - "Police Story"
Rollins Band and Ice-T - "Police Story" (cover)
Black Flag - "Slip It In"
Black Flag - "Rise Above"
Public Enemy - "Louder than a Bomb"
Rage Against the Machine - "Sleep Now in the Fire"
MC5 - "Kick Out the Jams"
Rage Against the Machine - "Kick Out the Jams" (cover)
Bad Brains and Henry Rollins - "Kick Out the Jams" (cover)
Minor Threat - "Straight Edge"
Trash - "Lick My Lollipop Baby"
Jane's Addiction - "Been Caught Stealing"
Marilyn Manson - "Kill Your God"
Dead Kennedys - "Nazi Punks f!!@ Off"
Napalm Death - "Nazi Punks f!!@ Off" (cover)
Black Flag - "My War"
Cradle of Filth - "Devil Woman"
Seether - "f!!@ Me Like You Hate Me"
KMFDM - "Free Your Hate"
KMFDM - "WWIII"

Basically the loudest, angriest, most obnoxious stuff I could think of.

Okay, now for christmas, we have to create a CD that has a picture of you, me, and all the other New Caanaan Rebels (the name of our group) in a broken down old car driving down main street on the cover.

Liberty's Edge

Freehold DM wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


Hey, I've got the goods, man. I know a few people, we can get rolling in a couple of days. Time to break some kneecaps.
Evil people don't deserve functioning patellas. That's just unconscious knowledge, man.

Right on, man.

My New Canaan playlist:

Black Flag - "Police Story"
Rollins Band and Ice-T - "Police Story" (cover)
Black Flag - "Slip It In"
Black Flag - "Rise Above"
Public Enemy - "Louder than a Bomb"
Rage Against the Machine - "Sleep Now in the Fire"
MC5 - "Kick Out the Jams"
Rage Against the Machine - "Kick Out the Jams" (cover)
Bad Brains and Henry Rollins - "Kick Out the Jams" (cover)
Minor Threat - "Straight Edge"
Trash - "Lick My Lollipop Baby"
Jane's Addiction - "Been Caught Stealing"
Marilyn Manson - "Kill Your God"
Dead Kennedys - "Nazi Punks f!!@ Off"
Napalm Death - "Nazi Punks f!!@ Off" (cover)
Black Flag - "My War"
Cradle of Filth - "Devil Woman"
Seether - "f!!@ Me Like You Hate Me"
KMFDM - "Free Your Hate"
KMFDM - "WWIII"

Basically the loudest, angriest, most obnoxious stuff I could think of.

Okay, now for christmas, we have to create a CD that has a picture of you, me, and all the other New Caanaan Rebels (the name of our group) in a broken down old car driving down main street on the cover.

only if it's a 64 Impala...

(that way i can say stuff like "don't quote me boy, i ain't said s#!^....")


houstonderek wrote:
(that way i can say stuff like "don't quote me boy, i ain't said s#!^....")

Can I call you "Kilo-G"?

Liberty's Edge

Kirth Gersen wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
(that way i can say stuff like "don't quote me boy, i ain't said s#!^....")
Can I call you "Kilo-G"?

um, that would be "100 kilo-g", don't sell me short (the Feds sure as heck didn't...) ;)


Kirth Gersen wrote:
The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


Hey, I've got the goods, man. I know a few people, we can get rolling in a couple of days. Time to break some kneecaps.
Evil people don't deserve functioning patellas. That's just unconscious knowledge, man.
It's like anywhere else; it's just the evil people are a bit more vocal there. There are/were some sublimely excellent people there as well, whom I'd hate to see kneecapped.

I promise not to kneecap indiscriminately. There will be a five minute for each citizen before I get ta swingin'.

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
Kirth Gersen wrote:
The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


Hey, I've got the goods, man. I know a few people, we can get rolling in a couple of days. Time to break some kneecaps.
Evil people don't deserve functioning patellas. That's just unconscious knowledge, man.
It's like anywhere else; it's just the evil people are a bit more vocal there. There are/were some sublimely excellent people there as well, whom I'd hate to see kneecapped.
I promise not to kneecap indiscriminately. There will be a five minute for each citizen before I get ta swingin'.

Only if you assess penalty deductions from that five minutes for stuttering and hem-hawing...


houstonderek wrote:

um, that would be "100 kilo-g", don't sell me short (the Feds sure as heck didn't...) ;)

"100-Kilo-G looked up and gave a grin..." somehow just doesn't have the same rhythm and cadence.

Liberty's Edge

Kirth Gersen wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

um, that would be "100 kilo-g", don't sell me short (the Feds sure as heck didn't...) ;)

"100-Kilo-G looked up and gave a grin..." somehow just doesn't have the same rhythm and cadence.

ok, change "100" to "hundy"...


Sorry for the threadjack; I'm an infinite font of Eazy-E lyrics. Shared first name and all that. Probably shouldn't admit it in public. Maybe I should look for a 12-step program instead: "I have no power over the old-time gangsta-rap that gets stuck in my head from time to time."

Once upon a time, when the principal announced that "New Year, New Challenges" would be our school slogan one year, a colleague and I lobbied to change it to the less appropriate but far more accurate "Money, Cash, 'Ho's."


houstonderek wrote:


Okay, now for christmas, we have to create a CD that has a picture of you, me, and all the other New Caanaan Rebels (the name of our group) in a broken down old car driving down main street on the cover.

only if it's a 64 Impala...

(that way i can say stuff like "don't quote me boy, i ain't said s#!^....")

a '64 impala with hydraulics.

Liberty's Edge

Kirth Gersen wrote:

Sorry for the threadjack; I'm an infinite font of Eazy-E lyrics. Shared first name and all that. Probably shouldn't admit it in public. Maybe I should look for a 12-step program instead: "I have no power over the old-time gangsta-rap that gets stuck in my head from time to time."

Once upon a time, when the principal announced that "New Year, New Challenges" would be our school slogan one year, a colleague and I lobbied to change it to the less appropriate but far more accurate "Money, Cash, 'Ho's."

you do realize i was given an article 15 when i was in the army for playing NWA, which led to an incident, and me telling the full bird colonel hearing the case that the army wouldn't have this problem if they stopped recruiting klan members...

Liberty's Edge

houstonderek wrote:
Kirth Gersen wrote:

Sorry for the threadjack; I'm an infinite font of Eazy-E lyrics. Shared first name and all that. Probably shouldn't admit it in public. Maybe I should look for a 12-step program instead: "I have no power over the old-time gangsta-rap that gets stuck in my head from time to time."

Once upon a time, when the principal announced that "New Year, New Challenges" would be our school slogan one year, a colleague and I lobbied to change it to the less appropriate but far more accurate "Money, Cash, 'Ho's."

you do realize i was given an article 15 when i was in the army for playing NWA, which led to an incident, and me telling the full bird colonel hearing the case that the army wouldn't have this problem if they stopped recruiting klan members...

Not that's just funny.

Liberty's Edge

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Kirth Gersen wrote:

Sorry for the threadjack; I'm an infinite font of Eazy-E lyrics. Shared first name and all that. Probably shouldn't admit it in public. Maybe I should look for a 12-step program instead: "I have no power over the old-time gangsta-rap that gets stuck in my head from time to time."

Once upon a time, when the principal announced that "New Year, New Challenges" would be our school slogan one year, a colleague and I lobbied to change it to the less appropriate but far more accurate "Money, Cash, 'Ho's."

you do realize i was given an article 15 when i was in the army for playing NWA, which led to an incident, and me telling the full bird colonel hearing the case that the army wouldn't have this problem if they stopped recruiting klan members...
Not that's just funny.

the whole fiasco was kinda funny, the extra duty and post restriction kinda sucked..

Dark Archive

Honestly that is pretty funny. I almost got an Article 15 for threating to shoot a full bird colonel, but the base commander came down on my side after I explained that he tried to break a cordon during a nuclear upload. The colonel got the Article 15 instead. And there did seem to be a large number of Klan members when I was in.


houstonderek wrote:
I promise not to kneecap indiscriminately. There will be a five minute for each citizen before I get ta swingin'.
Only if you assess penalty deductions from that five minutes for stuttering and hem-hawing...

I'm writing this down. Hold on. Okay... adding in special penalties for those with speech pathologies... gotcha.

What else?

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
I promise not to kneecap indiscriminately. There will be a five minute for each citizen before I get ta swingin'.
Only if you assess penalty deductions from that five minutes for stuttering and hem-hawing...

I'm writing this down. Hold on. Okay... adding in special penalties for those with speech pathologies... gotcha.

What else?

If by "pathologies" you mean "impediments", that isn't what i'm saying at all, i mean more like "evasive and embarrassed" ;)


houstonderek wrote:

If by "pathologies" you mean "impediments", that isn't what i'm saying at all, i mean more like "evasive and embarrassed" ;)

I knew I had the wrong word... but was too dazed after work to recall it. A friend of mine became a speech pathologist and my brain just grabbed that word.

And of course I was just kidding, I deliberately misrepresented your point for humor's sake, but for some reason humor responded with, "Don't do me any more favors" and kicked me squarely in the groin.


HEY GUYS/GALS... SURPRISE

A Halloween extra from Mistress Lilith and su servidor(me)!

I hope you LOVE it ;)

PS: Sorry in advance for all those Avatars who haven't arrived to the party yet...


Hugo Solis wrote:

HEY GUYS/GALS... SURPRISE

A Halloween extra from Mistress Lilith and su servidor(me)!

I hope you LOVE it ;)

PS: Sorry in advance for all those Avatars who haven't arrived to the party yet...

Hmm... this looks familiar. Still a great job :)

Sovereign Court

It's Halloween, I'm an adult with a home, but no kids...

That means I get to stand ready with the hose - awesome!

Shadow Lodge

feytharn wrote:
Modera wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
It became politically incorrect when someone realized that there might be some religious aspect to Halloween. My wife works for the Headstart program and the directives that came down to them is that since not everyone is Christian and because diversety must be respected Halloween is not celebrated in the Headstart program. Teachers may have a "costume day" or "pajama day," but they may not decorate for or celebrate Halloween.
Wait, I think I inferred your post incorrectly. Are you saying they believed that Halloween is a Christian holiday?

I hope not...

In Germany the last few years christian churches reacted poorly to the rapidly growing trend to celebrate halloween, because they realized it is an old pagan hollyday and most kids celebrating "dont remember" the meaning of the following (christian) day (that probably has been put on that day by early european christians to make use of the traditional pagan hollyday)...
The word Halloween on the other hand is derived from the christian hollyday and stands for All Hallows Eve'

See what pagans can do? We create holidays that while fun now, had a totally different meaning hundreds of years ago.....

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