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Grand Lodge

Okay, so a Fiendish Satyr procreates with a Half-Fiend Jann.

Would this be the correct "geneology" to create an NPC

Half Fiend/
Satyr (Character)/
Jann (Character)
?

If so I can go ahead and begin its stat block.

-W. E. Ray

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16

Molech wrote:

Okay, so a Fiendish Satyr procreates with a Half-Fiend Jann.

Would this be the correct "geneology" to create an NPC

Half Fiend/
Satyr (Character)/
Jann (Character)
?

If so I can go ahead and begin its stat block.

-W. E. Ray

I think adding the Half Fiend Templet is the right way to go, however I dont think you can be both a Satyr and a Jann. That would be like saying that a half-elf got all the benefits of being an elf and a human. They don't, but they get a little bit of both. I think you'll need to create a varient creature that is a mix of satyr/jann. If I made this I think I would pick one of the two that the child takes after and use that creatures stat block, but then trade out one or two of the special abilites ect with the other creature type so that some of the other parents geneology is displayed. Then I would add the half-fiend templet and any class levels.


You might try the amalgam template in the Advanced Bestiary by Green Ronin. That allows you to mix two monsters together if you really want a half-fiend jann/satyr. Otherwise, you'll be hard-pressed in your task of somehow combining two distinct monsters.


In the Sandstorm book there's the half-jann template. Add that and the half-fiend (since both parent were half-fiends) template to a satyr. Or you could try adding the half-fiend and half-satyr (from some Dragon whose number I forget) to a janni. As suggested before, the amalgam template isn't a bad idea either.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

I don't think you should go with half-fiend. I grant, you aren't working with punit squares while dealing with the demon genes, but it seems most of the time the bloodline should get weaker without purity. I think it should be more rare and special when the fiendish bloodline gains strength out of nowhere.

Maybe adding this half-jann template to the original creature and either fiendish (assuming the two templateswork together well) or a minor fiendish bloodline. I'd have to check to be sure.

There are several answers to a given build problem, which is why I love the current game so much. But you want to make sure your build is in good taste, balanced wth your party, and doesn't sell off playability for the concept. After all, a lot of times the best template is another level of fighter. Just choose fightery stuff that the amalgam character would inherit from its parents.


Or just pick out the 3-4 abilities that you really want and write a convincing two-line backstory to explain it to the PCs if they ask. That's a lot of templates to apply in quick order. I'd rather just wing it with the high points personally. :)

Grand Lodge

So what happens when a Fiendish Satyr procreates with a Half-Fiend Jann?

I don't have Green Ronin's template book; I'm usually not in to templates. Could someone show the Amalgam Template here?

If I do the Jann AND Satyr character generation, would gestalting their stats be fair? Then add the Half Fiend stuff?


Molech wrote:

So what happens when a Fiendish Satyr procreates with a Half-Fiend Jann?

You find a half-[creature] template and add it to the other base creature. However if neither creature has a half-[creature] template then you either assume that nothing happened (these two creatures can't procreate successfully) or you make it up.

Also I'd say the half-fiend template stays in this case. both parents are half-fiends so their progeny is made up of 50% fiend - sounds like a half fiend to me. If only one parent was a half-fiend then something more akin to a Tiefling would be in order - I think the SRD has some bloodline rules for those that just have some fiendish blood running inm their veins but are not fiendish enough to get the half fiend template.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

After thinking about it somemore, I would give it a fiendish bloodline, use the full version of one creature, and then make feature choices reminiscent of the other type. For example, maybe a jann,with a fiendish bloodline, plus class and feat selections that resemble the other race and still make it a strong encounter.

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