Do Crafted Vehicles Get Increased HP And Hardness Like Other Crafted Items?

[Freshchaitea]

Hello! Very simple question. Following the release of Tech Revolution, rules for scaling vehicle statistics were added, and vehicles can be crafted with Engineering. I was wondering, for custom vehicles, if they are crafted, do they receive the increase in HP and Hardness as though they were two levels higher like other items that can be crafted, or do they not receive that bonus?

[Felix Cohen]

Based on the rules in the core rulebook, any item in the equipment chapter can be crafted. And when you craft them they have more HP and hardness. Vehicles are listed in the equipment chapter, so it seems like you should be able to craft them using the normal rules. Which would mean that all the normal rules apply including the increased HP and hardness.

The rules in Tech revolution don't seem all that relevant to this question. They only mention improving and modifying vehicles, not crafting. Using these rules would not turn a purchased vehicle into a crafted vehicle. It would not grant additional HP and hardness beyond what is described in those rules. It looks like the player or GM can use those rules to design a vehicle, but the characters are expected to purchase them.

[Xenocrat]

No, because vehicle hardness and HP aren't tied to item level by the same "generic equipment" formula that the self crafting is modifying.

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When determining the hardness, Hit Points, and saving throws of an item you have crafted, treat its item level as if it were 2 higher. (For more about calculating these values, see Breaking Objects on page 409.)

Vehicle HP and hardness are for regular combat, and not directly tied to item level at all - vehicles of the same item level vary widely in their HP and hardness based on their type and role.

[thistledown]

Yes, and are pretty much the only benefit you get for crafting. If you're making a vehicle with the intent of ramming it into targets, it's a great route to go.