Grab Nerf in Bestiary 4


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Grand Lodge

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I know a couple of other posts are up about this but I was curious since the change in Bestiary 4 makes its printing the legal RAW version if previous comments to fix it are still considered valid or if we have to use the new version. Whirlwind was also reverted to an older version and I am not sure which version to use as it seems that an older pre errata version of monster abilities was included in Bestiary 4 rather than the updated ones.

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Is there any difference?

Grand Lodge

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Yes, Grab normally works on creatures your size or smaller but with the change in Bestiary 4 its now only creature one size smaller than you or smaller.

In addition whirlwind went back to the vague question based on size of whirlwind rather than volume of space.


That's strange. They deliberately changed it for Bestiary 2, so it would be odd to revert to the Bestiary 1 version now.


Might be changing from book to book. So that each book's grab is for each book's creatures.


Which is needlessly confusing.

"Oh, I wonder which version this monster uses..." *wastes game time trying to find out*

Not good.


Sounds to me like a copy pasting error.

I would wait for an errata on the new bestiary before using those "new" definitions.

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