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This is EXACTLY the kinda insight I’m paying the big bucks to post in this forum for. Gives me what I need to know without going over the edge. My sheet has been updated. Thank you.
No problem, I'm very happy to be of assistance. :)
Would you put Shelyn up-front then, Deadman, or Iomedae, as the most tolerated in the city? Or Milani, as our antennaed friend suggests, but others have explicitly warned against? Or Zon-Kuthon...?
It depends a lot on the PCs, honestly.
Shelyn is definitely a solid choice for several reasons, but there's a fair amount of interaction with the Varisian population and thus Desna makes some sense, and Zon-Kuthon is a surprisingly plausible option (though not one I, myself, would recommend). Weirdly, despite not being a big thing in the city, Sarenrae also works quite well with a lot of the themes involved.
So yeah, I'd go for Shelyn, Desna, and Sarenrae as recommended deities (the fact that there's a pantheon for the three of them and that those three are in a relationship together both make this an interesting coincidence).
I do also agree, for the record, that Milani is a problematic choice for this AP. A Cleric of hers who joined it mid-stream would work, but the first couple of books would be troublesome.
No problem, I'm very happy to be of assistance. :)
Would you put Shelyn up-front then, Deadman, or Iomedae, as the most tolerated in the city? Or Milani, as our antennaed friend suggests, but others have explicitly warned against? Or Zon-Kuthon...?It depends a lot on the PCs, honestly.
Shelyn is definitely a solid choice for several reasons, but there's a fair amount of interaction with the Varisian population and thus Desna makes some sense, and Zon-Kuthon is a surprisingly plausible option (though not one I, myself, would recommend). Weirdly, despite not being a big thing in the city, Sarenrae also works quite well with a lot of the themes involved.
So yeah, I'd go for Shelyn, Desna, and Sarenrae as recommended deities (the fact that there's a pantheon for the three of them and that those three are in a relationship together both make this an interesting coincidence).
CotCT was an AP where I struggled for about three books to work out what god my character (a LN/LG ranger in the Sable Marines) would worship, before coming to the conclusion he was an atheist. Initially I would have thought Abadar, but that AP gave all of our party such an intense loathing of the Church of Abadar that even, years later, I can’t find it in me to play an Abadarean cleric.
I would add Iomedae to the list of appropriate deities, given her links to Cheliax and Korvosa’s history as a Chelish colony. Iomedae is the goddess of goodly Chelish, in the city that doesn’t want to become part of the Thrune empire, but has historical and cultural ties to it.
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CotCT was an AP where I struggled for about three books to work out what god my character (a LN/LG ranger in the Sable Marines) would worship, before coming to the conclusion he was an atheist. Initially I would have thought Abadar, but that AP gave all of our party such an intense loathing of the Church of Abadar that even, years later, I can’t find it in me to play an Abadarean cleric.
Interesting! I presume this has to do with their handling of the plague, but can you go into more detail?
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Interesting! I presume this has to do with their handling of the plague, but can you go into more detail?CotCT was an AP where I struggled for about three books to work out what god my character (a LN/LG ranger in the Sable Marines) would worship, before coming to the conclusion he was an atheist. Initially I would have thought Abadar, but that AP gave all of our party such an intense loathing of the Church of Abadar that even, years later, I can’t find it in me to play an Abadarean cleric.
Pretty much that, yes. It was a few years ago, but I remember a discussion where the NPC cleric of Abadar made it clear that they wouldn’t do anything to help anyone who didn’t pay up first - stepping over dying babies in the street level of callousness. I think some of the issue was due to cultural differences between the writers and our gaming group, but we did decide that Abadareans were more evil than Asmodeans.
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Pretty much that, yes. It was a few years ago, but I remember a discussion where the NPC cleric of Abadar made it clear that they wouldn’t do anything to help anyone who didn’t pay up first - stepping over dying babies in the street level of callousness. I think some of the issue was due to cultural differences between the writers and our gaming group, but we did decide that Abadareans were more evil than Asmodeans.
'More evil' is an exaggeration but they're pretty bad regardless of cultural context.
The AP does present a sympathetic Abadaran Cleric who is trying to help things get better, but he's clearly having to actually work outside his chain of command to do so, which does not incline people to like the Church of Abadar.
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From what I understand both churches would charge for their services and spells. However Abadar believes in fair pricing and would not alter the price while Asmodeans, being evil, would take advantage of the situation and inflate the going rate.
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From what I understand both churches would charge for their services and spells. However Abadar believes in fair pricing and would not alter the price while Asmodeans, being evil, would take advantage of the situation and inflate the going rate.
That's substantially correct, yes. Though the followers of Asmodeus might do worse than that and not charge money at all, requiring lifetime slavery, human sacrifice, or worse if they thought they could get away with it.
Abadar is not a nice guy, but Asmodeus is worse.