Botfly Swarm Suffocation special attack


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When my group was on Bonewrack Isle, I never noticed that the botfly swarms have a suffocation attack. I can't find rules for that special attack anywhere. Does anyone know the mechanics for it? I'm assuming it works a bit like the suffocation spell while in the swarm, but I'm not sure. My players are thinking of returning to Bonewrack Island to get a crew member who stayed behind. So it's definitely something I want to keep in my back pocket for use if they should go back.

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Delthos wrote:
When my group was on Bonewrack Isle, I never noticed that the botfly swarms have a suffocation attack. I can't find rules for that special attack anywhere. Does anyone know the mechanics for it? I'm assuming it works a bit like the suffocation spell while in the swarm, but I'm not sure. My players are thinking of returning to Bonewrack Island to get a crew member who stayed behind. So it's definitely something I want to keep in my back pocket for use if they should go back.

No I never saw that ability.

Botfly swarm.
Why do you think It has a suffocation ability?


Because here:

https://aonprd.com/MonsterDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Botfly%20Swarm


It's listed right under special attacks.

Special Attacks disease, distraction (DC 14), suffocation


Hmm that’s very strange, I don’t think I’ve ever noticed that. There’s nothing listed in the Universal Monster Rules for a Suffocation Ability. The next best thing I guess would be the Environment Rules for Suffocation, and just apply them to anyone occupying the same space as the swarm, but considering a creature would literally need to stay put for like 20 rounds before Anything bad would happen, and 3rd level PC’s would be dead long before that, I don’t really see how that would even be a factor. Barring an actual explanation, I might just say PC’s can’t speak while they’re occupying the same space (which means no spells with verbal components, as well)
Suffocation Rules


Yeah, I'd already considered that myself. Only dealing with suffocation while in the swarm definitely didn't seem all that big of threat so that's what got me wondering. There are some pretty specific situations where that could actually be a problem, but honestly the swarm is likely to kill most people from its damage attacks before the person is going to suffocate while in it.


As far as i recall, in the AP the swarm has bleed, not suffocation.

the botfly swarm in aonprd comes from a different book

Edit: Had to check: not bleed, but blood drain. They are in fact a variant of mosquito swarm with a disease.


Wow, indeed they are. That being said, my original question still stands about their attack as the other form is definitely something I may still want to use.

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