"Search"ing for an answer (Blessing of Rovagug and insufficient blessings)?


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So, I've done a foolish thing: I used a Blessing of Rovagug with 6 blessings left in the Blessings Deck. Of course, I rolled a 6.

Blessing of Rovagug reads:

Quote:
Discard this card to add 3 dice to any 1 check, then search the blessings deck until you find 1d6+1 blessings and discard them.

I have to search until I find 7 blesings and discard them. I cannot fulfil these instructions. What happens?

My thoughts:

a) First I thought I was hooped, since I would have to remove more cards from the hourglass than remained. But, the instructions are not to discard 1d6+1 cards from the blessing deck; instead, I am explicitly instructed to "search until I find... and discard". It is a two-part instruction.

b) The rules under "search and examine" contain the phrase: "If you don't find a card of that type, ignore any directions related to that card". But, the first sentance of that paragraph refers to examining, not searching. From context, I therefore conclude it is a specific instruction related to examining, not searching... but the preceding sentance instructing you to stop looking for cards when you find seems equally applicable to "search" "until you find" as it does "examine" "until you find".

c) My general inclination would then be to do as much as I could, i.e. search until I find 6 blessings, then discard them. But, I'm not certain if this is correct. Does the search fail entirely because I cannot find 7 blessings?

p.13 Core Rulebook wrote:


Searching and Examining

Sometimes a power allows you to search a stack of cards and choose
any card of a particular type; that means you may look at every card
in that stack and choose any card of that type. Unless instructed
otherwise, shuffle the stack afterwards.

Sometimes a power allows you to examine one or more cards in
a stack—that means looking at the specified card then putting it
back where it came from. (Examining is not exploring, though it may
happen during an exploration.) If you are examining a location, when
determining which cards you are examining, consider only facedown
cards.

If a power tells you to examine something until you find a particular
card type, begin with the top card and stop when you find a card of
the specified type. ***If you don’t find a card of that type, ignore any
directions related to that card.***

Examine the cards in the order you find them, and put them back in
the same order unless instructed otherwise. If anything would cause
you to shuffle the stack you are examining, shuffle only after you put
back any examined cards that do not leave the stack.

p. 6 Core Rulebook, Advance the Hour wrote:
If you have to remove one or more cards from the hourglass for any reason and there aren’t enough cards to do so, the party loses the scenario (see Ending a Scenario, Adventure, or Adventure Path on page 16).


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You missed one relevant rule

Rulebook p3, The Golden Rules wrote:
Regardless of the above, if you need to do anything with any number of cards from the hourglass (other than shuffling it) and you don’t have enough, you lose the scenario; if that happens with your deck, your character dies.

If you don't have enough blessings to search 1d6+1 of them, you lose the scenario.


skizzerz wrote:

You missed one relevant rule

Rulebook p3, The Golden Rules wrote:
Regardless of the above, if you need to do anything with any number of cards from the hourglass (other than shuffling it) and you don’t have enough, you lose the scenario; if that happens with your deck, your character dies.
If you don't have enough blessings to search 1d6+1 of them, you lose the scenario.

... That is clear! Thanks!

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