AG Updates & Alignment


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So, I've put off asking this again until the Lore Warden was resolved, since the thread it went up originally got locked due to that debate.

bdk86 wrote:


What Changed: The Tempest Druid (AG pg. 183) now has an Alignment Requirement (Chaotic Neutral), where none existed before (per its Inner Sea Magic printing, pg 41).

What's the problem: The current Role-playing Guild Guide only allows limited rebuilds due to changes in a class/PrC/archetype to an ability-score-dependent feature or weapon/armor proficiency. There are a host of corner cases for the aforementioned changes this does not cover: [list]

  • Gear with an alignment requirement (i.e. Axiomatic Weapons)
  • Feats with an alignment requirement, if not a Deity requirement that does not allow one to worship them while Chaotic Neutral. (i.e. Deific Obedience [Irori])
  • Characters multiclassed into another class with an alignment requirement (i.e. My Tempest Druid/Unchained Monk*) At present, the character MUST change alignment at PRD update to become legal or they lose their druid powers.

    In the case of multiclassing, you've got a character that must choose between losing Druid powers or losing powers/being unable to progress further in their second class (in this case, I'd become an ex-monk and just have to figure it out from there).

  • So, because eventually the PRD will update and I will have a character that is caught between keeping one class/archetype or the other....what do I do with this character? There are no provisions in the Guide for rebuilds due to an alignment requirement change. If I've missed something somewhere, please let me know.

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    I think we missed the new alignment restriction in our review, and this falls into similar category as the mantis zealot archetype (which gained a more restrictive alignment criterion in Adventurer's Guide). Likely that means we'd waive the new alignment restriction in the updated tempest druid archetype, as we did with the mantis zealot.

    We've noted this and should have an update in the next Additional Resources/Campaign Clarifications documents, which should land before Adventurer's Guide appears on the PRD.


    Dear John,

    When you say "Adventure's Guide appears on the PRD* does that update also include Bestiary 6, Horror Adventures and Ultimate Intrigue?

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    Thomas Seitz wrote:

    Dear John,

    When you say "Adventure's Guide appears on the PRD* does that update also include Bestiary 6, Horror Adventures and Ultimate Intrigue?

    I'm not directly responsible for the PRD's update schedule, so I don't have a definitive answer. My assumption is that we'll see updates of a book or two at a time, not one sweeping update that adds everything all at once. I run into a similar issue when Additional Resources starts to fall behind, and sometimes a team just needs to get out a couple of smaller updates rather than aim for one huge update.


    I understand John it's not your department. But at last check, the last update to the PRD was April 25, 2016. I understand there might be back logs. I merely was curious if you had access to the pertinent information. I do thank you for all you do for Organized Play and of course this community.

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    John Compton wrote:

    I think we missed the new alignment restriction in our review, and this falls into similar category as the mantis zealot archetype (which gained a more restrictive alignment criterion in Adventurer's Guide). Likely that means we'd waive the new alignment restriction in the updated tempest druid archetype, as we did with the mantis zealot.

    We've noted this and should have an update in the next Additional Resources/Campaign Clarifications documents, which should land before Adventurer's Guide appears on the PRD.

    Thank you for your swift response and flexibility re: alignment.

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