Arcane Training (half elf) + Magical Knack


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3/5

I've been looking around and can't find an answer to this question...

If I take only levels in fighter, but Arcane Training in Wizard AND Magical Knack....can I actually use 2nd level scrolls without UMD?

Grand Lodge 4/5

At and above 3rd level fighter, yes, that seems to work.

Shadow Lodge

I'd say no, on account of Arcane Training only allowing you to use spell completion/trigger items as a first level character (in this case, since you don't have levels in whatever class you're using this on), but doesn't actually give you a caster level (which is what Magical Knack modifies).

That said, even without this combo working, you wouldn't need to make a UMD check; since you can activate scrolls as if you were a first level caster, it'd be a caster level check, with a DC equal to the caster level of the scroll plus one. That means to activate a scroll of a second level spell, that'd be d20+1 vs a DC of 4; a 90% of successfully activating the scroll. On a failure, you'd make a DC 5 Wisdom check to avoid a scroll mishap; barring a mishap, the scroll won't be expended.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

You probably couldn't find an answer to this because this is the PFS Forum.

Paizo changed their URLs recently and it messed up everyone's links.

I went ahead and flagged this thread for the Rules Questions Forum for you.

You can probably find many discussions over there regarding these two items.

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