"Robot Influence" Hack & Mystic mind-affecting spells


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"Robot Influence" Technomancer Magic Hack (p.121): “You can affect constructs, robots, and other creatures that have the technological subtype with your mind-affecting spells, even if they're mindless or normally immune to such effects. However, they receive a +2 bonus to their Will saves against your mind-affecting spells."

I’m working on a Mystic/Technomancer PC.

Does this hack allow me to cast the “Command”, “Confusion, Lesser”, “Charm Monster” and “Fear” (which have as target “one living creature”) mystic spells on non-living constructs and robots?

Or does it allow me to cast on non-living constructs and robots just the spells whose target already potentially includes non-living constructs and robots (such as “Charm Person”, “Daze”, “Dominate Person”, etc.) simply bypassing constructs and robots mindlessness and immunities?

Thank you for your help.

j


I think it's intended to only bypass the "immune to mind-affecting" part, and not any other restrictions. I'm not sure about the "living" part, but "What does it mean to be living?" is more philosophical than I'm prepared to be now.

I have a question of mine own. From what I recall, "Robot Influence" affects "your mind-affecting spells"; would that mean just technomancer spells (since it's a technomancer class feature), or all spells? I hope it's all; I've only been able to find four (4) technomancer spells that are mind-affecting, and I think daze only works on humanoids.


There's a PF FAQ you might use as guidance that generally a class ability that modifies spellcasting (like Sorcerer bloodline Blasting damage increases) applies to other spells from other classes.

This is a terrible hack for Technomancer. Not only does it barely apply to any spells on your list, you already have several spells on your list that directly control technological constructs.


Xenocrat wrote:
This is a terrible hack for Technomancer.

It can be good for a multiclass Mystic (Overlord)/Technomancer PC.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Distant Scholar wrote:
I think it's intended to only bypass the "immune to mind-affecting" part, and not any other restrictions. I'm not sure about the "living" part, but "What does it mean to be living?" is more philosophical than I'm prepared to be now.

This interpretation would mean only a single technomancer spell, Unwilling Guardian, would benefit from Robot Influence. Given that, the only plausible interpretation is that it opens up target creature types as well. So, e.g., Control Undead would be able to target and affect a robot or other technological creature when Robot Influence is used.

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