"Druidic Herbalism" confusion


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From the Healer's Handbook

Do the "free" concoctions granted by Druidic Herbalism mean I don't have to cast the spell to make the concoction either? Or do I still have to prepare the spell I want to make a concoction of, and cast it as part of the concoction creation (as with Brew Potion), and I just don't pay any gold?

Also, at 7th level, Druidic Herbalism lets you create what are effectively "extracts", is it intended that you can't do this with spells of 3rd level and below? Do these special concoctions count against your Wis/day free concoctions?

If you can't make these extract-like concoctions with lower level spells, then it seems like you're expending more resources to create lower level concoctions than higher level ones. If you've expended your Wis/day free concoctions, you have to pay gold and spell slots to create lower level concoctions, and just expend spell slots to create higher level ones. The one balancing factor would be that the lower level concoctions persist as potions, whereas the higher level extract-like concoctions continue to occupy your spell slots like an infusion. Still, it seems like an unintentional asymmetry.

Can you make these extract-like concoctions with spells higher than 6th level? Or are you limited in the same way an alchemist would be?


This might belong in the "Rules Questions" section. Not certain, but it seems likely; you'd probably get better feedback there.

Regarding the "free" potions: I'm pretty sure that they really, really mean free. No spell slots, money, or time consumed that wasn't already spent by your character. (Probably performed as part of recovering spell slots)

For the option at seventh level.. I'm really unsure, but I think they use up a free concoction slot for the day they're made as well as the spell slot.

As for how high they can go... however high a spell level the character has access to. Playing with 12th level spells that your character can use? Then you can make a pseudo-infusion of them.


The reason I was posting here was because it was suggested by one of the writers in the Healer's Handbook thread.

Thanks for your feedback though, I guess I'll repost this in the rules questions section.

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