SotR Questions and Tier Clarity


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Silver Crusade 3/5 **** Venture-Captain, Missouri—Springfield

I was wondering about some things with Wraith's 1 and 2 Scenario lists.

Based of the awards, I assume if I completed everything I would have 5 skill feats, 2 power feats, 2 card feats and be starting the next path at tier 3, and also a ton of cards I could replace my cards with?

Because of:

scenario and adventure path rewards 1-1:
1-1b wrote:
For the rest of the Adventure Path, when setting up each scenario, 1 player may temporarily replace 1 item in her deck with the loot Scale of Disguise. At the end of each scenario, return the loot to the game box.
1-1e wrote:
"" Sacred Prism
1-1 Adventure wrote:
Each character gains a skill feat.

Path 1-2:
1-2a wrote:
Banner of Valor replace
1-2b wrote:
Medal on Knights
1-2c wrote:
Soulsear replace
1-2d wrote:
Scale of Sacred Weaponry replace and Medal
1-2e wrote:
Redeem using this, Medal
Adventure reward wrote:
Each character gains skill feats corresponding to all medals gained on the troop Knights of Kenabres (as noted on your Chronicle sheet).

Another question is about tiering: could you complete theoretically be Tier 4 after this by choosing to upgrade early at 4, then completing an adventure to tier, then again in the second path?


Heathwool wrote:

I was wondering about some things with Wraith's 1 and 2 Scenario lists.

Based of the awards, I assume if I completed everything I would have 5 skill feats, 2 power feats, 2 card feats and be starting the next path at tier 3, and also a ton of cards I could replace my cards with?

Because of: ** spoiler omitted **
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This looks right. Of course, getting feats from medals requires you to spread them out for different skills.

Heathwool wrote:
Another question is about tiering: could you complete theoretically be Tier 4 after this by choosing to upgrade early at 4, then completing an adventure to tier, then again in the second path?

Yes, you could start adventure 3 at tier 4 by tiering up early in either adventure 1 or 2. This would actually give you more feats. You gain the unearned feats in the tier you leave when you tier up.


elcoderdude wrote:
Heathwool wrote:

I was wondering about some things with Wraith's 1 and 2 Scenario lists.

Based of the awards, I assume if I completed everything I would have 5 skill feats, 2 power feats, 2 card feats and be starting the next path at tier 3, and also a ton of cards I could replace my cards with?

This looks right. Of course, getting feats from medals requires you to spread them out for different skills.

Should have 6 Skill feats.

1 from tier one
1 from Adventure 1 complete
1 from Tier 2
3 from the three medals you get in adventure 2

Grand Lodge

Heathwool wrote:
Another question is about tiering: could you complete theoretically be Tier 4 after this by choosing to upgrade early at 4, then completing an adventure to tier, then again in the second path?

This always comes up here and there. Yes, you can "game" the system in order to be one tier higher. But as a person that runs these scenarios for others and represents the Pathfinder Society as a venture officer, I recommend against this. Like a lot of min/maxing that goes on in the RPG side of the society, "gaming" the system is just taking advantage of a system that is designed for both the players that come regularly to sessions as well as the players that can't be there every time. The two methods of tiering were put forth so that people that show up to every session and play through each adventure level at the expected rate. The other method is for the casual player that can level their character without having to complete adventures. It was an issue in Season 0.

So every time someone asks if you can tier up quicker using the second method while being a regular basis, I let them understand why the methods were put into place and advise against "gaming".

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I would much prefer if the tiering rules only upgraded your tier to a maximum of the AD you're in/going into, but I may not have sufficient empathy for those who can't make lots of scenarios and the strange edge cases they are forced to pursue.

Silver Crusade 3/5 **** Venture-Captain, Missouri—Springfield

So this brings up a different question: to complete Season 2-1, you have to complete 6 scenarios, not 5. They have a f scenario. Does your character tier at the normal 2-1E, and get credit as if completing the Adventure as stated in the guide, or follow the Adventure rules? Based on how they had 6 in AD1, to run through Rise of the Runelords, you would have to do the tier example, and be Tier 4 when going through AD 3.

Grand Lodge

Heathwool wrote:
So this brings up a different question: to complete Season 2-1, you have to complete 6 scenarios, not 5. They have a f scenario. Does your character tier at the normal 2-1E, and get credit as if completing the Adventure as stated in the guide, or follow the Adventure rules? Based on how they had 6 in AD1, to run through Rise of the Runelords, you would have to do the tier example, and be Tier 4 when going through AD 3.

Pardon me if I'm a little confused but I'll try to answer. To complete Adventure 2-1 (Dark Waters Rising), you have to finish Scenarios 2-1A through 2-1F. Nothing happens after completing 2-1E. You only get the die bump and adventure completion reward after 2-1F. If for some reason you were only able to participate in four of the six scenarios of the adventure: you completed 2-1A, 2-1C, 2-1D and 2-1F. Then at this point, you could choose to advance since upon completing your fourth scenario of the tier, you received your card feat. However your friend was there every session of the adventure. She got her card feat after completing 2-1D. She did not advance a tier at this point. (It is not automatic.) And when she completed 2-1E and 2-1F, she automatically advanced to Tier 2 with the accompanying adventure reward and die bump.

Normal (adventure) advancement is always on the completion of the adventure's scenarios whether there are four (D) or, let's say, seven (G). It doesn't matter how many scenarios make up an adventure, to gain the rewards from the adventure, you need to complete all its scenarios.

Normal advancement would mean that you're Tier 3 going into Adventure Deck 3.

Pathfinder ACG Developer

ADs usually have 4 to 6 scenarios. We tend to average to 5, but do expect to see some of those 4s and 6s from time to time.

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