| Rengarth |
I am looking to see what if any Prestige classes can work with a Kineticist. I found this on the "Giant in the Playground forum." What are the thoughts and opinions on these:
KINETICISTS AND PRESTIGE CLASSES
-Kineticists are apart from traditional spellcasters and as such do not always qualify and advance for those available to more common magic users.
-Levels in kineticist qualfy a character for prestige classes with the following entry requirements.
A caster level requirement, if no type (excluding psychic) is specified.
Ability to cast spells of X level, if no type (aside from psychic) is specified.
Ability to use wild talents of X level, or a specific wild talent. None exist yet, to my knowledge, but here it is.
-Levels in kineticist do not qualify a character for prestige classes with the following requirements:
A caster level requirement where the type is specified, unless that type is psychic.
Ability to cast spells of X level where the type is specified, unless that type is psychic.
Ability to cast spells where the school is specified.
Ability to cast a specific spell, even if a wild talent exists with a similar effect.
-When advancing in a prestige class that states "+1 level of existing spellcasting class," "+1 level of existing psychic spellcasting class," or "+1 level of existing casting class," a kineticist adds those levels to his kineticist class for the purpose of determining his effective kineticist level when using wild talents, and for the purpose of gaining new wild talents.
| Xuldarinar |
As the one who wrote it, Im sorry to have delayed as much as I have in noticing this and responding. Let us begin:
The purpose of those rules are to make it so that there is an abundance of options without interfering too much with certain flavor elements. I think they are fairly solid, but I'll admit they have received 0 input, and likely have never seen table use.
The options, since last I checked, and my (perhaps biased) thoughts on them:
Arcane Savant: Lower HD and BaB, and a 6/7 caster. That having been said, there are some interesting abilities from it, and if you have a wand you really want to use a one level dip could make that easier... But generally it really isn't worth more than a passing glance.
Demoniac: Same HD and BaB, but a 9/10 caster.. You give up one level of your wild talent advancement to gain; Bonuses to ability scores on command (Constitution or Dexterity being big ones to consider), abilities based on your chosen demon lord, some summoning, and the ability to turn into a demon temporarily. I think its worth taking, or at least looking at.
Envoy of Balance: Lower HD and BaB, but a full caster. Incisive spells should work in your favor when spell resistance gets invoked, Contravening Armament might as well. Over all, not entirely worthless, but you do take a minor hit for it. If you somehow aren't dealing with burn, this becomes a better option.
Hell knight Enforcer: Same HD and BaB, and a full caster. Aside from a wasted feat.. you really have next to nothing to lose for taking this.
Master of Storms: Same HD and BaB, but a 7/10 caster. For thematic reasons, enter with access to air or water. Sure, you might find yourself a little behind in some regards, but it looks fun so consider it.
Soul eater: Lower HD and BaB, and a 8/10 caster. As much as I like the prestige class, I wouldn't recommend it for kineticists. You may get something out of it, and there is a little, but spellcasters put it to greater use.
Sphere walker: Same HD and BaB, and a full caster. I don't really see much of a reason to avoid it to be honest.
Tattooed Mystic: Lower HD and BaB, and a 7/10 caster. Two wasted feats to get tools that don't work with being a kinetics.
Umbral Mystic: Same HD and BaB, and a 7/10 caster. It isn't perfect, but with only one wasted class feature, and that being for a useless bonus feat, It is worth investigating.