So I'm playing a homebrew Mystic Theruge (part of the homebrew is that my arcane and divine classes increase by two each) and have sixth spells now and will gain seventh level spells soon. My wisdom score is a 27, so my "offensive" spells are from the cleric spell list, but my charisma is only a 17- so my sorcerer spells aren't going to have high DCs.
My question is what are some of the sixth and seventh levels of the sorcerer spell list that don't use a DC, or perhaps focus more on the caster level? I know I'm going to take disintegrate, but what else are some good choices in this situation?
And advice would be well appreciated!
So Im not going to cover every spell possible, there are a ton of choices :D
Plenty of defense options, spell turning, antimagic field, plenty of buffs (greater heroism is level 6, and it's fantastic)
But if your looking for offensive power without the save DCs look for Rays, anything with a ranged touch attack usually doesn't have a save
That said, here are some that stand out to me :)
Sirocco-level 6, its an AOE, and has the expected save for half damage, and to avoid being knocked prone, but if they take damage, they are fatigued with no save, that doesn't sound like much, until you use a rod of quicken to hit them again, then they are exhausted, and if they did fail either save, they are also prone :D
Greater black tentacles...this one is brutal, and no save, they can grapple goes, deal damage, and really are just a pain in the neck, best part, they have a +13 strength modifier, get a size bonus for being gargantuan, and use your caster level, as their Base attack bonus...you can grapple full BAB classes with this thing
Arcane cannon- it's not the best, but it is fun, essentially, turn a toy cannon, into a real boy, that starts firing every other round and reloading itself, does decent damage, and it has the conductive property, for you to use your supernatural and spell like abilities through as it fires, it's effectiveness depends a little on your bloodline, but nothing stops you from carrying multiple toy cannons, and casting this, every round, until you have a full contingent if artillery, again, not the best, but it is fun :D
If all else fails, grab limited wish, for 1,500 gold, you can cast any spell on your class list, level 6 or lower, or any spell NOT on your class list at level 4 or lower this allows you to have anything you need ready if you really need it.
That's just a skim, let me know if your looking for anything in particular
(Damage, control, buffs, debuffs etc.)
That's just a skim, let me know if your looking for anything in particular
(Damage, control, buffs, debuffs etc.)
Honestly, I'm looking for another damage spell and then after that, anything.
I'd love to take grrater black tentacles, but my evil martial members would not be very happy...
My DM actually banned contingency, cause I could just keep a heal on myself or other stuff.
Greater heroism is looking pretty good...
What control spells could work?
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My DM actually banned contingency, cause I could just keep a heal on myself or other stuff.
That is a bizarre restriction.
I suspect people who think Contingency is OP aren't familiar with the restrictions:
* The spell triggered can't be more than 1/3 your caster level, rounded down. So, no, you can't use Heal as your contingency spell until you reach 18th level. Which, based on your original post, is a ways away.
* The spell triggered can't be higher than 6th level, no exceptions.
* Contingency fires off if the stated condition is met, whether you want it to or not.
It is a very useful spell, but given the above it is hardly abusive.
That's just a skim, let me know if your looking for anything in particular
(Damage, control, buffs, debuffs etc.)
Honestly, I'm looking for another damage spell and then after that, anything.
I'd love to take grrater black tentacles, but my evil martial members would not be very happy...
My DM actually banned contingency, cause I could just keep a heal on myself or other stuff.
Greater heroism is looking pretty good...
Also, I just reread disintegrate, and there is a save with it, so I'll have to find a different offensive spell.
What control spells could work?
6th and 7th level sorceror spells that don't work off DC? I'd look at greater dispel magic, wall of iron, powerword blind and greater teleport.
And if your really wanting to pack in the damage, it helps to specialize, take the "additional traits" feat, and grab wayang spell Hunter, and magical lineage for say, fireball, now you can get 2 levels of metamagic for free, so you can grab
Intensified
Empower
Maximize
And even if you throw all three onto fireball, it's still. A level 7 spell :D
And then you have a 15d6 fireball, where all the dice autonrill a 6, and you add 50% more damage
Now if you grab flumefire rage, you can add another 15 damage on top of that (you could also use a rage spell, and the furious spell metamagic to make that a 30 point increase in damage)
You can also grab things like spell specialization,.varison tattoo, bloatmage initiate, spell perfection to help out your big damage spell (or spell school)
Some other tricks
Blazing robes, boost CL for fire spells by 1
(They also have similar robes for lightning and cold)
Fire fragment, for roughly 300gp you get a focus (sonit isn't consumed) and you can increase you fire CL by another 1
Having cleric spell, you can also use flame strike, as half the damage is divine, and can't be resisted
You can also take selective spells, so you don't hurt you melee, or.use fire snake, so you can avoid them
Finally take freedom of movement, and those greater black tentacles won't effect your melee pals :D
(I would like to recognize LordKailas for helping me find most of this stuff)