| Amaurot |
Need a little clarification for replaying and applying credits on different characters
A. All Tier 1 Scenarios: Replayable for PC and GM credit on 1st Level character
B. Tier 1-2 Sanctioned Modules: Replayable for PC and GM credit on 1st Level character, and
GM credit on a single 2nd Level character once only
C. Freeday modules: Same as T1 Scenarios, but only grant 1xp and 1pp
Did I got anything wrong? Cause a friend of mine GMed MoFF twice and tried to apply the credit on two different characters but failed, system saying 'player has already run section...'
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C is not correct. It only comes into play because of overlap with A & B, i.e. only Tier 1 and Tier 1-2 are re-playable. Additionally, the two most recent Free RPG Day scenarios offer the potential for 2 PP. The error message that came up is a problem with the system that causes it to be unable to recognize the difference between modules/scenarios that can and cannot be re-played. It is a known problem and should be ignored, bearing in mind that physical chronicle sheets are the most important thing.
| Amaurot |
Thanks for the reply, and there is one more question.
The 'Free RPG Day modules' section in the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play states 'if you have played any of the Free RPG Day modules listed above and been awarded Chronicle sheets for them, the XP, the Prestige Points, and gp you received remain unchanged.'
What exactly does it mean?
| Amaurot |
and... sorry a few more questions
1. For the Sanctioned Modules, are the Tier 1-2 the only one replayable? Are Tier 1 sanctioned modules replayable?
2. What exactly MoFF is?
Tier 1 or Tier 1-2 sanctioned modules?
Or Tier 1 scenarios?
Cause the chronicle sheet stated it as a Tier 1, but I heard some said it is actually a Tier 1-2.
3. And how about other freeday modules?
Which one can actually be replayed?
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1. Both are re-playable.
2. It's a bit debated, but I think the final consensus was it counts as tier 1-2.
3. Only things that are tier 1 or 1-2, so We Be Goblins and Master of the Fallen Fortress only.
The complete current list of things that can be re-played is:
Master of the Fallen Fortress
We Be Goblins
First Steps I: In Service to Lore
5-08 The Confirmation
6-10 The Wounded Wisp
Murder's Mark
Crypt of the Everflame
The Godsmouth Heresy
Thornkeep: The Accursed Halls
Emerald Spire: Tower Ruins
Reign of Winter 1: The Snows of Summer
Mummy's Mask 1: The Half-Dead City
The Silverhex Chronicles Quests
It is anticipated that another tier 1-2 scenario will be released in season 7.
| Amaurot |
Would you kindly cited any official quotes stating 'Tier 1 (not Tier 1-2) sanctioned modules are also replayable'?
And is there any official list of replayable scenario/ modules?
Sorry for all the questions but this is too complicated for me, and I really want to get clarify with this problem.
Because my friend insists that Tier 1 and Tier 1-2 are two separate things and only the later allow replay, and since MoFF is a Tier 1, it cant be replayed
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Would you kindly cited any official quotes stating 'Tier 1 (not Tier 1-2) sanctioned modules are also replayable'?
Here you go. MotFF is the only tier 1 module.
And is there any official list of replayable scenario/ modules?
See DrParty06's list above.
Because my friend insists that Tier 1 and Tier 1-2 are two separate things and only the later allow replay, and since MoFF is a Tier 1, it cant be replayed
That seems like a very strong position to insist on. Can he provide a citation to back up this claim?
| Amaurot |
Amaurot wrote:Because my friend insists that Tier 1 and Tier 1-2 are two separate things and only the later allow replay, and since MoFF is a Tier 1, it cant be replayedThat seems like a very strong position to insist on. Can he provide a citation to back up this claim?
his major agruement is that the pfs organized guide (literally) only states that 'only tier 1 scenarios and tier 1-2 sanctioned modules are replayble', never mentioning any tier 1 sanctioned module (MoFF)
Besides, he said that the official should have announced if there is a system error, so long as paizo doesnt say anything about the system, then it is not a bug, but inmplying MoFF is not replayable in nature.
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his major agruement is that the pfs organized guide (literally) only states that 'only tier 1 scenarios and tier 1-2 sanctioned modules are replayble', never mentioning any tier 1 sanctioned module (MoFF)
The Guide assumes people will use common sense when reading it. MotFF is an example of 'early installment weirdness', in that the concept of a tier 1-2 module didn't even exist at the time that it was sanctioned for PFS.
Besides, he said that the official should have announced if there is a system error, so long as paizo doesnt say anything about the system, then it is not a bug, but inmplying MoFF is not replayable in nature.
Hopefully the link I provided above (where MotFF is specifically named as replayable by a Paizo employee) will set him straight.
| Amaurot |
Thanks for all the reply.
Sadly, he insists that a 2011 reply is out-of-date, and people should always read the rules as written, I don't if there is any other thing I can do to convince him.
Anyway, as the MotFF is a sanctioned module before Tier 1-2, can I play with a 2nd level character for once, just like other T1-2 modules, or is it 1st level only?
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He wants a Paizo employee to weigh in, but then when he gets it it's too old?
If Fallen Fortress isn't replayable, then I and everyone I know are all cheating. I have replayed it at conventions and with 5-star GMs. It was replayable, it is replayable.
I grant that the Guide apparently needs to be even more explicit to remove any doubt, but remember this: there is no such thing as RAW, because the rules as written are being interpreted by humans. Your GM has obviously chosen to interpret the grammar differently than everyone else.
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Sadly, he insists that a 2011 reply is out-of-date, and people should always read the rules as written, I don't if there is any other thing I can do to convince him.
I see his reasoning though I don't agree with him in this case.
The way he has chosen to interpret that is that the Paizo employee made a ruling in 2011, but since newer versions of the PFS guide since then did not change their wording, the new guides (being a more recent rules source) overruled the messageboard reply.
Of course the best thing to do would be to update the next version of the guide to say something like, "ANY adventure, regardless of type, that is sanctioned for PFS play for tier 1 only or tier 1-2 only can be replayed an unlimited number of times with level 1 PCs and GMs can apply a chronicle to a level 1 PC each time they run one of these adventures."
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Sadly, he insists that a 2011 reply is out-of-date,
Hah! Well, I think the onus is now on him to support his viewpoint.
Having said that, is it such a big deal if one person is wrong (and refuses to change)? If he backs out of playing at a MotFF table because he's played it before, then it's his loss. Or is there more to it than that?