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Greetings! I am in the process of creating a new version of the Atlas. That version will have an Areas of Influence page showing areas claimed by organizations in PFO. Please provide me with a link to where your organization has publicly claimed an area to be under their influence so I can put that area on the Influence map. Your organizations's claim must have been made publicly in either the Goblinworks forums or the PFO Paizo forums.
Thanks
Harad Navar of the 36th Order
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Goblin Squad Member
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PFU claims of territory 2 hexes out http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s44d?Pathfinder-University-A-safe-place-for-ne w
Ozems Vigil 2 hex radius https://goblinworks.com/forum/topic/2147/
The emerald lodge gives a description of their borders here http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s2em?Crowdforging-the-laws-of-the-Emerald-Lodg e#1
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This whole claiming of territory, before territorial control mechanics are in game is pre mature at best, and completely arrogant and belligerent at worst.
The only way to "claim" territory will be to place and then maintain a holding. These holdings will have a cost in materials to build and then an ongoing cost to keep them running.
The only territory any settlement controls is their settlement hex. Tower hexes are also controlled, but we have seen that even these are fluid.
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I would like to claim the entire map. Anyone doing anything, anywhere on the entire map will be considered hostile unless given my prior permission. Thank you.
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I would like to claim the entire map.
Too late. Xeilias prior claim
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I would like to claim the entire map.Too late. Xeilias prior claim
It is no less legitimate or no more premature than anyone else's claim.
Aragon claims the hex that Aragon occupies, and since no one can mechanically remove us from it, it is the only legitimate claim currently made on this thread.
Seriously, is Harad supposed to waste his time on making a map that means nothing?
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I didn't make any claims of more or less legitimacy. Just pointing out the joke had already been committed.
I wasn't implying that you supported the claim, I was just quoting it because of the Xielias claim that was linked.
But the claim does point out the ridiculous nature of all claims. No one has to recognize a claim, and when anyone punishes them for it, they will retaliate. Their retaliation is in some ways more justified then the punishment that was placed on them, because the original claim was without foundation.
Territorial claims in PFO are generally laughably large and unenforceable. I say that of even the more modest claims, having hunted and gathered them ALL without prior permission.
The proposed atlas would likely be nothing but a map of aspirations, with some claims simply looking greedier than others. But it will have very little to do with who is utilizing those areas.
e.g. I'll bet that if you could track which settlement's players occupied each hex the most this weekend, the data from many hexes would conflict with existing territorial claims.
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Territorial Claims matter only if some one enforces them. Since holdings are not in the game yet there is no game mechanic to validate claims. However, if a group is enforcing their claim, it is only fair that players have source where they can find out what they may be might be up against as they move across the map.
I get that, but knowing who the claimant is at war with would be vastly more important information to most travelers.
One settlement could have 20 enemies. We've already seen an area I would call "besieged" tell new players that it was a safe place for them.
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I get that, but knowing who the claimant is at war with would be vastly more important information to most travelers.
One settlement could have 20 enemies. We've already seen an area I would call "besieged" tell new players that it was a safe place for them.
Why not encourage groups to declare what territory they are interdicting, and what groups they are ganking there?