Stats

[<Kabal> Kradlum]

Is there a simpler way to see the actual value of your stats than going to a trainer and reading the tooltip for a feat you can't get? At the moment, to check my Dex I have to run to Stoneroot Glade every time. I have no idea what my other stats actual values are because I don't know what feat to check!

Is there a spreadsheet that shows for each feat the stat this is affected and by how much? I checked the Covenenant page and couldn't find one that did it.

Please, please update the tooltips for feats on trainers to show the stat gain (just hire a temp to update the spreadsheets for a day ;) ), and have a way of viewing the actual value of stats on the character sheet.

[Kero]

The most prominent repository of data about these things atm is at

"Pathfinder Online (Public) - Google Drive"

In there, check out sspitfire's feat advancement tables, for example. I'm not sure if everything's up to date but it's the best resource I know of.

Edit: link fixed

[Nihimon]

<Kabal> Kradlum wrote:

Is there a simpler way to see the actual value of your stats than going to a trainer and reading the tooltip for a feat you can't get?

Not yet. I think we're all hoping they at least provide a tooltip when you hover over an Ability Score that will display the precise value.

<Kabal> Kradlum wrote:

Is there a spreadsheet that shows for each feat the stat this is affected and by how much?

Pathfinder Online (Public) (this link should work even if you don't sign in)

Specifically, you're looking for the "Copy of PFO Wiki - Official Data" spreadsheet, and any worksheet (tab at the bottom) that has "Advancement" at the end. You'll probably have to scroll the tabs right a time or two to see them. The value you're looking for is in the "AbilityBonus LvN" column, where N is the level number.

I'm working on changes to the code I use to parse these spreadsheets, and hope to have "Nihimon's Normalized Data" updated soon. Once you see the datestamp on it is later than the datestamp on the "Copy of PFO Wiki - Official Data", you'll find the data you're looking for in the FeatLevelFacts tab where the FactType is "AbilityBonus" (name will probably change).

[<Kabal> Kradlum]

I was looking at Sspitfire's feat advancement tables last night, but it didn't give the value of the stat each feat increased.

[Nihimon]

I believe Sspitfire's spreadsheets are a bit out-of-date anyway.

[Kero]

<Kabal> Kradlum wrote:

I was looking at Sspitfire's feat advancement tables last night, but it didn't give the value of the stat each feat increased.

On the spreadsheet you linked; it's the "bonus" coloumn. But as Nihimon said, that may be out of date.

[sspitfire1]

My spreadsheets are up to date with the exception of listings for what feats are in/not in. For example, I still haven't deleted Religion from the skills list.

Kradlum, do you mean things like what specific benefits armor feats provide or do you mean what ability scores the feats benefit?

[sspitfire1]

I went ahead and updated everything. The information in the tables is accurate for Alpha 13.

[<Kabal> Kradlum]

Ok, I understand it. If I train a level 5 shortbow feat, I will get 0.122 Dex. I was reading it incorrectly before.

[sspitfire1]

Ah, yeah. The Bonus column is the amount of bonus at that level, while the Cum Bonus column is the cumulative bonus for all levels up to and including that level, so each level 5 Shortbow feat is giving you a 0.267 total bonus to Dexterity. Training all shortbow feats to level 5 will give you a total 2.67 bonus to dexterity.