Higher-tiered chronicle applied to a 1st. level character


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From the Guide to Organized Play (page 36):

"If the player is playing a non-1st-level pregenerated character, he
may choose instead to apply this Chronicle sheet to a 1st. level
character by reducing this value to 500 gp (or 250 gp for
the slow advancement track)." If I didn't miss anything, the Guide says nothing else about it.

Typically, GM's also cross off all items and boons from the chronicle. Is that correct even if the Guide doesn't say so?

It appears that GM's do not have the option to apply a chronicle to a 1st. level character. Is that correct?

It appears that there is no option to apply a 3xp/4pp chronicle from a module to a 1st. level character. Is that correct?

Thanks in advance for your help!

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First off, make sure you have the most recent version of the guide. Page 6 has this to say, in addition to what's on page 36:

P. 6 wrote:
You may also opt to apply the Chronicle sheets earned with a non-1st-level pregenerated character to a 1st-level character with the amount of gp gained reduced to 500 gp (or 250 gp for characters using the slow advancement track). You do not lose access to any of the Prestige Points, or items listed on the Chronicle sheets that were earned during the adventure. However, any boons must wait to be utilized until the character is of the same level as the subtier on the Chronicle sheet unless otherwise noted.
Xellrael wrote:


Typically, GM's also cross off all items and boons from the chronicle. Is that correct even if the Guide doesn't say so?

As above, that is incorrect.

Xellrael wrote:
It appears that GM's do not have the option to apply a chronicle to a 1st. level character. Is that correct?

That used to be the case, but now the last paragraph on page 38 says:

P. 38 wrote:
A GM may apply credit for running a scenario, module, or Adventure Path in any of the same ways a player can, and must follow the same rules as a player when applying credit to a character.
Xellrael wrote:
It appears that there is no option to apply a 3xp/4pp chronicle from a module to a 1st. level character. Is that correct?

Also no.

P. 30 wrote:
If you play a non-1st-level pregenerated character, you may apply credit from the pregenerated character to one of your 1st-level characters, with the gp gained reduced to 1,398 gp (or 699 gp for slow advancement track characters).

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Zak Glade wrote:


Xellrael wrote:
It appears that GM's do not have the option to apply a chronicle to a 1st. level character. Is that correct?

That used to be the case, but now the last paragraph on page 38 says:

P. 38 wrote:
A GM may apply credit for running a scenario, module, or Adventure Path in any of the same ways a player can, and must follow the same rules as a player when applying credit to a character.

I don't see how that changes things. The GM is not running a Non-1st level Pregen character and the rules you are referring to are for running non-1st level Pregen characters.

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Which is a way that a player can assign credit to a character, correct?

Sczarni

Can this be applied to a 2nd level pc in the same way? We have a new guy playing tonight and we may end up with out 3-7 tier game (6-7 tier). The only pc he has is a lvl 2 character (either 3 or 4 xp).

Grand Lodge 4/5

He will have to wait until the PC reaches 3rd level to apply it, otherwise he can start a new 1st level character to apply it to.

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Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
He will have to wait until the PC reaches 3rd level to apply it, otherwise he can start a new 1st level character to apply it to.

He has to wait until the level of the pre-gen to apply the chronicle... be it 4th or 7th level.

Grand Lodge 4/5

I always forget that clause. Too used to applying GM credit rather than pregen credit.

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Zak Glade wrote:
Which is a way that a player can assign credit to a character, correct?

A player may assign credit in this manner if, and only if, they are playing it with a Pregen non-1st level character. A GM would be restricted in the same way unless you assume she is playing it with a Pregen non-1st level character.

I always assumed the base assumption was that a GM was assumed to have played the mod with the character he assigned it to and thus could not use the Pregen rules for applying credits. I will have to discuss this with my VL since I believe she is under the same assumption.

Grand Lodge 4/5

I also interpret it as Zak does, since it was a specific change of wording from the previous guide.

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Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
I also interpret it as Zak does, since it was a specific change of wording from the previous guide.

It is entirely possible you are correct. I just want to make sure everyone is on the same page. We have enough problems with table variation from PF rules we don't need additional ones from PFS rules.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

True dat.

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Nice to have the rules sensibly presented and clarified at last (at least to most people's satisfaction ;).

So no more sigil wafers for 1st-level PCs... though it seems the boon from Refuge of Time survives since it is an item. Both were really nice for newbies starting with a Tier 7-11.

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Yeah, Trollbill, not meaning to be snarky, but it was definitely a deliberate change in language so it's the only interpretation that really makes sense to me. Hopefully your VL agrees!

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Zak Glade wrote:
Yeah, Trollbill, not meaning to be snarky, but it was definitely a deliberate change in language so it's the only interpretation that really makes sense to me. Hopefully your VL agrees!

Snarky? You're talkin' to the ex-WizO_Snark here (back when WotC still had WizOs). That ain't snarky.

I agree it makes sense in the context of being a deliberate change from the previous wording. I just wasn't looking at it in that context.

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I have also championed a need to clarify that this is what the new language was intended to do. My RAI senses tingle but my RAW 8 - ball says "Ask Again Later".

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Previously GMs could not apply their credit to a level 1 character.

Now they can. This was changed on purpose.

Note that the following was added as a rule for applying credit to a level 1 character.

"However, any boons must wait to be utilized until the character is of the same level as the subtier on the Chronicle sheet unless otherwise noted."

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