Understand one of the four permanent spells


Pathfinder Society

The Exchange 3/5

Hey guys, I recently got my wizard up to 10th level, and was looking at taking secret chest because it is one of the four spells that are allowed to be carried over from scenario to scenario.

"A character may have one each of the following spells that
carries overs from scenario to scenario: continual flame,
masterwork transformation, secret chest, and secret page."(Guide to Society, Season 6 pg. 24).

Secret Chest

Basically my question is that the secret chest only exists for 60 days, about how many scenarios is this then, or does it really not matter since the only material cost is having the chest and mini-chest but they aren't destroyed when the spell ends so how is having this spell carry over scenario to scenario make any difference then simply casting at the start of every scenario?

As the wizard, I have no problem with the spell, I could like I said above, cast it at the start of every scenario to be safe but if someone who plays with me says "Hey that's cool, how do I get one of those?" and I respond with "I can cast it for you, but it'll only last for 60 days of in-game time and I can't quantify time in PFS to explain when it goes away. Also it costs 5050 gold, 5000 for the Chest to hide, 50 for the tiny replica."

My interpretation or hypothesis is that it exists in the special set of special rules for PFS, one in which the 60 day limit on the spell is removed and it becomes a pretty handy little chest that cost 5050 gold and is always available.

Silver Crusade 4/5

I think the ruling is more for home games. In Society, this isn't really much of a problem as you can simply "refresh" the cumulative chance (or at least I think you can) before it becomes too much of an issue. Let alone, I don't think I've ever played a scenario that didn't go over a week in-game time.

However, I don't believe you can cast it for others. Since there's a material cost and there are rules about that players cannot pay others for services rendered.

Unless this is a home game. o.o;;

3/5

In PFS, one character can cast Continual Flame for another because it actually IS permanent.

So the same logic doesn't hold for secret chest, which lasts a long time, but not forever.

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